How to cv control minitaur?

generating an Support ticket at Moog web site,

they’ ll sent u an zip file with calibration syx file.

needed for minitaur to get in the right pitch.

i ve gone the same way after digging the Forums.

have fun

darius

to go the short way,
i posted the file in “FILES” area…

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Thanks 2old4shit! That seems to work. I didn’t have a voltmeter at home so, I just set both notes to say C3 and to 1V and then 4V respectively. I assume this would generate a constant 1V and 4V signal for calibration. If someone has a voltmeter, maybe they can confirm.

FYI, the calibration can also be done using the latest Minitaur Editor s/w.

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Anybody used the Minitaur as a CV to MIDI converter to use the A4 sequencer with another synth or VST?

So I’m pretty sure I have the CV setup properly. My problem arises when I’m done with my session and turn off my gear. When I come back the next day and turn on the A4 and Minitaur, all of the sudden the Minitaur isn’t working with the A4. The only way to resolve this seems to happen by randomly unplugging the Minitaur and turning the A4 on/off several times. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Why is this?

I may be a bit confused with how CV works, but I think I have it right? I have AB out of the A4 going into gate/filter of the Minitaur, and CD out of the A4 going into the pitch/volume of the Minitaur.

I have CV A set to Pitch V/Oct, I have CV B set to Gate, I have CV C set to Pitch V/Oct, and I have CV D set to Pitch V/Oct.

What is going on here? Ugh…

I’m pretty sure you have too many things connected. When using CV out with my voyager I need ONLY the gate (CV A), and V/Oct (CV C) for the pitch. Everything else is set to “ground” on the A4.

LA

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I’m pretty sure you have too many things connected. When using CV out with my voyager I need ONLY the gate (CV A), and V/Oct (CV C) for the pitch. Everything else is set to “ground” on the A4.

LA[/quote]
Thanks, I unplugged volume and filter CV and it seems to be working now! :joy:
Although it sounds a bit weird, trying to fiddle with the different CV sources on the A4 now.

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I use my Minitaur CV controlled with my A4 and everything works fine. I control usually 3 or 4 parameters on the Minitaur via CV.

The only thing which is quite annoying is that I always have to send a C0 to the Minitaur via MIDI before starting to send CV. If I don’t do that, the Minitaur may play wrong pitch (i.e. if I play a C1 on the A4, the Minitaur will for example play a G1). I think that’s a known issue.

So maybe it comes from that?

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^ that

annoying…guess I’m used to it now though…I think mine always boots up in G1 so everything is transposed…obviously, if I’m sending notes it straightens itself out but otherwise I send it a C0 as well and then hit it with other sequencers

you may initially have to run the CV tuning too, MOOG support will send you the files for that

One more thing…

I believe you have to be careful not shorting one of the CV channel as they are are combined in “stereo”. I do use stereo splitters (to two mono) because of this. That way I’m sure the other output is not shorted. Maybe not important if the adjacent channel is set to “ground” but who knows.

LA

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Okay well I’m facing the same problem again today. I woke up, turned my gear on and the Minitaur isn’t working properly… Ugh, I only have CV gate/pitch connected to CV A/B

Humm, just realized that I never keep the CVs connected between the A4 and the moog when I’m not using it. Maybe that’s why I never ran into such problem…?

LA

Don’t think it’s a connection issue. I have gate and pitch cv connected at all times. However, I’m not connecting them to an A4.

i have a post here in elektronauts asking about my ms20mini and analog four cv/gate connection . Perhaps it can help you. I have a video showing my cv/gate configuration . My config of course is different because ms20 mini is a bit “special” to connect. But your moog should be “easier to connect” than my ms20. See the video i upload in this post :

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an even better question is how do i determine these values for any cv connected synth? (I also have a werkstatt)

First of all, the manual for calibrating CV is wrong – it describes how it used to work a few months ago and it changed in an OS update. To calibrate nowdays:

[ul]
[li]Plug in the pitch and trig CVs, and make sure the trig CV is at least doing something (sounds like you got that far). [/li]
[li]You need to select two notes as a reference – let’s say C2 and C4. Press C2 on the keyboard that’s attached to the Minitaur (I’ll explain why later) and make sure you’re actually getting C2 (you do have a tuner hooked up to the Minitaur, right?[/li]
[li]On the A4, select C2 as the first note, go to the note voltage and hold down “Yes.” A tone should play. Dial in C2, checking the tuner. Should be pretty close to zero volts.[/li]
[li]Once it’s dialed in, set the second note to C4 and do the same thing with the second voltage. We’re using V/Oct, so going 2 octaves up should translate to somewhere around 2.000 Volts.[/li]
[/ul]

That should do the trick. One thing to note: I don’t have a 'taur, but on my Microbrute the CV in is actually an offset to whatever note I played last on the 'brute’s keyboard. This is why I have to start by playing C2 on the Brute, as the A4’s CV just adds to or subtracts from whatever voltage the Microbrute was last playing. Annoying but it does make transposing up or down an octave easy – just hit a key on the Brute’s keyboard.

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Thanks for the info. Followed the steps and can’t seem to get the minitaur to to stay in tune across the keyboard. Just found another thread about others having the same issue. Worked great for the werkstatt though. Another question I have is what to set the gate voltage to? Just till you hear the notes at full volume?

Minitaur is notorious for needing initial calibration. It’s an extremely simple process though. Email Moog support and they will send you the files/instructions.

Think so, yeah. All it is is a signal to tell it “okay hold a note down.”
If I’m not mistaken (and I remember Gordon Reid’s Synth Secrets right) keyboards are supposed to send three CVs: one for pitch, one for the trigger (“start a note”), and one for gate (“okay hold a note”). I think what you want to send from the A4 is the pitch and the trigger, then the A4’s envelope or the one on the Minitaur serves as volume – not sure if that ends up being the actual gate or not.

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  • dumbledog.
    The brute is a little annoying that it does this. Arturia call it “absolute mode” ???
    Have moved brutes (got both) to midi. Much better.

  • rgraphic. -
    The minitaur will take a bit of rooting around to get right but, once its done, its done. Worth every minute.
    I didnt have to recalibrate mine and it has worked via cv with every os update on A4 and MT.

Dumbledogs technique description is solid and should yeild results.

Good luck. I think it is a fitting “fifth voice”.

Cheers

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