High Sierra

And here is the precipice we as Mac users are @; upgrade your OS to get the new OB and run the risk of all your other programs NOT working. For me it’s my fast becoming ancient Mackie BlackBird FW interface; they’ve not updated drivers for Mac OS in over 2 years.

in the meantime it’s always like that… just few years and a product can be stop… then Drivers are not developed anymore it’s happened for me as well a lot. i learnt which brand i can trust more now and know which one are the most valuable in the time.

but you’re never safe FOREVER… That’s a FACT with Drivers :wink:

Dear @ellogden

I had no issues with High Sierra (latest update) and then after switching the laptop, the overbridge devices (and Virus) were no longer recognized.

@Olle put me on the right track. When rebooting the machine, I checked in the Privacy Settings of the Mac whether there are any messages coming up … and indeed this was the case.

I did not see the messages about blocked drivers by just looking into the privacy settings, only with the reboot I could spot these.

Now all is working fine.

Best, Olaf

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Here’s a Warning for Logic users that have both Logic 9 and Logic X on their system, are using a SSD, and are upgrading to High Sierra:


And

Official notice of Apple pro app compatibility with High Sierra:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207888

I’m having issues with OB on HighSierra. Could you be more specific about this Privacy Settings messages you are talking about? My Heat is not being recognised, maybe I missed something during the installation?

Can anyone advise on that?
Cheers

Hi @comym

as I wrote, I have no problem with High Sierra, all versions and Overbridge (or the Virus TI, which has also a tight integration of audio with DAWs). Changing my laptop, the devices were no longer recognised by the Mac OS. Because of the tight integration with the OS, so it seems, there are checks and drivers may be blocked in the same way the installation of new software requires the user to allow the process to move on. If you go the Apple logo on the top left, then Systems Preferences, then Security & Privacy, one may find a message there that something is being blocked. Now, I did not see anything there when I got a hint that I should look there. However, when I rebooted the laptop and had the Security & Privacy open, something popped up. Unchecking this, just like if there was some software installation, all was fine again. So, in case all other USB devices (e.g Octatrack) work fine but only the Overbridge devices are not recognised at all, this may be happening. Worth to check out.

I cannot claim to be the most happy Apple customer and my gut feeling is that over recent years thing become less smooth. But in my case, the problem is neither a negative thing about the OS, or Overbridge. What Access and Elektron do with the Virus and Overbridge is quite sophisticated, providing a deep integration. One should not expect this to be perfect (although for me the entire experience is really smooth and actually perfect so far). I am however not making myself and my fun dependent on things like Overbridge. It is a fantastic add-on, helping me to transfer music sketched in the DAW to my hardware and I also use it to check the spectra of sounds on the machines in the DAW. Sound design is also a pleasure with Overbridge and the A4s … but after a while it again is also no problem without. For me, Overbridge is an icing on the cake, but not deal breaker.

Switching from the MKI’s to the MKII’s I realised that it would be nice to have a different kind of “total recall” or “migration assistant” in Apple speak. Some easy to use, “few clicks” backup and restore of projects would be nice :slight_smile:

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Hey mate, thanks for the very detailed answer.

Wow, this is really weird. Everything just happened like you described.

First I went to Privacy Settings and I could not see anything happening on the General tab. So with the System Preferences still open I restarted my laptop.

When the windows started popping up again I was back to the Privacy Settings page and guess what, that was a little notice saying something was being blocked in the system. I just had to click “Allow” right next to it then I restarted the system one more time.

When back on, I simply plugged the Analog Heat again and opened the Overbridge panel and bang, it was magically recognised.

Thanks a lot for the tip, and I do agree, Apple has been making things very inconsistent recently, as you can see from the example above.

Regarding the use of Overbridge, I agree with you it should not be a blocker for creativity. However, a flawless integration with the DAW is at the very top of my list and it is actually a huge selling point. I know a big update is coming in February and I can’t wait for it. In the meantime I’ll be studying the Elektron workflow. This week I’ve bought both A4 and AR MkII. So I have a lot to catch up, starting from the A4.

It’s definitely a joy to program sounds on the A4 for example, but a shame Overbridge is still not available for the MkII. My plan is to use OB to bounce all the tracks to the DAW and go for it on production mode after. This is also due to the fact I only have a 2 input audio interface and right now I’m struggling to have all the instruments I’ve got connected at the same time. How do you connect all your devices? do you use a mixer?

Until February I’m trying to find a way to keep going and bounce some tracks to the DAW as well. Since I don’t have a multichannel mixer I guess I’d have to bounce track by track individually which would be possible but quite painful.

What would you recommend for now? I was thinking I could chain AR to A4 to AH then connecting to my DAW via Overbridge for now. Not sure if that would work tho.

Thanks again.

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this thread just makes me more and more curious…
Anyone using High Sierra on an older 2008-2010 Mac Pro tower?

I’d love to know if OB is working okay with MK1s on such macs.
When I tried Sierra, I had some GUI issues , so went back to Mavericks (where I can use the GUI, but the audio side is unreliable).

Basically, I just want to be able to get the full track count of 16bit audio streaming with 2 devices, and have the GUI update without issues so that I can program macros with the Overbridge VST. If the audio side is still borked/unreliable but the GUI is okay, I may still update so that I can run Live 10.

My Mac Pro has gobs of RAM and an SSD on a 6gbps PCI-E bus, so it can handle the High Sierra OS. But I’m not interested if it will break some of the OB issues my Xeon had with the older Sierra OS.

Totally different Mac here, but I know how you feel, still on Mavericks and my machine flys, been nervous to upgrade. It will break some stuff for me but I’ll also gain some stuff that I would really appreciate, and I’ll have a future ready machine for the next few years. From everything I’ve read it seems my machine will be OK, especially if a clean install is done, I think there’s even a chance it will work better.
Think I’ll wait till .3 and go for it, only one way to find out and it’s worth a shot!

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It would be immensely informative and helpful to let us know which specific laptop (year/cpu) you’ve installed High Sierra on.

Please don‘t go back on Mac OS to run Oberbridge. There are plenty of examples where it is working fine. His problem of having the machine not recognised is most likely a problem that can be solved (see my other comments). Best, Olaf

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I can only speak for the 15“ MBPs with the tops specs from 2015 onwards. I have always updated o the latest OS versions and haven‘t had any issues. If a 2010 machine would do the job, that would actually be impressive. Olaf

Glad to hear that I could help. You will find that this forum is very good, people always ready to help each other, including some of the super experts, nerdy guys who must be sick of trivial repeated questions and who nevertheless remain calm and very helpful :slight_smile: . I have been on the receiving end before.

Your suggestion to chain, should work. Til February is a perfect time to learn the workflow. The forum is full of ideas for workflows and excellent videos around. My fav synthesis YouTube vid is from Scot Solida.

The answer to the other question is ‚yes‘, I use a mixer, or two. The QuPac for recording things and a PX5 for live mixing and FX.

Right now, with the switch to the MKIIs, the desk is packed full. Hopefully I can part from the MKIs, … hopefully.

Olaf

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what a great collection of stuff

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Damn what’s ALL THAT OLAF ??? :stuck_out_tongue:

You do have a beautiful set up, apart from the quality I do like how tidy it is. I love your desk, is that custom made? I’m really struggling with physical space here at the moment so this desk looks like heaven. I know I’m going a bit of topic here. Just curious :smiley:

Apart from that, sure, I’ll have a read on everything and keep going on the studies over the Christmas break. Thanks mate.

I should not have posted the pic. I am trying to resist the „show your setup“ thread, which I love to read, worried that it is interpreted as „show off your setup“. There are lots of people here that have only a few pieces of kit but make not only most of it but also a lot more and better music. I enjoy the design of a setup, integrating new hardware, figuring things out as much as making music. For example, getting the MKIIs and recreating/transferring my music to the new machines, I discovered the pleasure of layering sounds. With two A4s, one can dedicate one to deep bass in unison mode, which is a surprisingly huge improvement to the sound. So, I will find it difficult time let go … . I always admire @AdamJay who once wrote that the equipment gets only a hotel with him, not a home. Since I really enjoy new gear, I will run into the same space problems everyone of us has :slight_smile: The table is a dining table (wider, longer) and the shelves are selfmade (with no tools and skills).

I should not have posted the pic - we are talking Overbridge and High Sierra!

I had a top spec 2016 MBP and after updating to High Sierra had Interne connectivity problems. I spent hours with the Apple service and had to bring my MBP to repair. They could not find anything. I now suspect it has something to do with the new USB specs and the use of certain cables and connectors. In general the changes may have improved things but if you have a certain cable … Because I totally rely on using the computer for my works (and which is why I don’t mind not using it for making music), I got a second MBP. It took seven hours to create a clone, only to realize that I still have problems - which is why I now think it’s the cables or adapters. In the process, I discovered the solution to the problem of machines not being recognized. Feels worth the effort if it has also helped someone else :wink:

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Hi everyone,

I know this is an old topic but…
I was forced to update to High Sierra, and now I cannot multitrack Keys + Rytm MK1 via Overbridge.
Whereas on Sierra I was able to turn on 6 channels on the Keys + 8 channels on the Rytm for a total of 14 channels, now I can only have a maximum of 6 channels between the two…
Running on a 2016 MacBook Pro 15" full specs, I really don’t know what to do here, should I go back to Sierra or hope for an Overbridge update?

can anyone help me with a workaround for Overbridge for High Sierra? , it’s 2018 and I’m using a fairly new rytm mki and OB 1.15 and my rytm won’t show up in overbridge , the AU and VST for rytm loads just fine in ableton but yeah if anyone can steer me in the right direction I’d love to use overbridge!

Check that the driver is not blocked in System Preferences -> Security & Privacy.

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