naaaah…
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I just ordered one based off a highly regarded rec and my experience with the MTMs. Really looking forward to the virtual studio/monitors feature. Neumann NDH20/30 are my cans of choice and the Arc on Ear should compliment them nicely.
Iv’e got the Momentum 4 – Never even used them with Ableton – Paired with SoundID I’m sure they are serviceable enough
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Previews seem to indicate that they’re pretty good, I’m not sure it’s a value buy, because the ANC is probably not as a good as what you get from the top performers.
The control software looks to be super flexible though.
The hype is strong right now. Lot’s of features but are they any good? Having a USB-C jack is an elegant way to let people use it wired. The latency would be noticeable when watching movies. Some reviewer said it’s revolutionary to have an equalizer but that’s not really it. All ANC cans I have tried i have had massively warped signal response with strong bass which is the opposite problem of the 600 series. Is this any different?
I have been using SHURE Aonic50 Gen 2 since it’s release and I think they are safe balanced choice. Not really cheap, not the most expensive either. Overall good value. It has PEQ as well, although simpler then the new Senns. It needs some attenuation of the slightly V-shaped signature for neutral sound. LDAC.
The only issues:
- you can only control either ANC or spatializer from the earpiece, for the other one you have to use the app
- ANC doesn’t handle wind nicely, you WILL have to switch it off in windy conditions (therefore you will probably have to have the ANC on the earpiece and change the spatializer from the app*)
- the glue holding up the leather on the foam pads comes loose over time (DIY fixable)
**why the hell can we get an AI detection of whether we are listening to music / podcast / movie and get the spatializer to change automatically?
My most WTF headphone moment ever. Probably very good for monitoring centered around vocals and or recording, but for actual music production / listening? I have to echo the sentiment above - naaaah…
Andrew Scheps was using it on professional recording and mixing projects for 20 years before going Audeze. Some ears fit headphones better than other and I’m sure his matched the optimal ear shape and size for the MDR-7506
Further to this, I stand by my comments on the FT1 headphones, but you have to replace the cable asap. It’s the worst cable I’ve ever used. Thick and ridged outer coating which is rough to the touch and unbelievably microphonic. It works ok if you sit perfectly still, but any movement that rubs the cable against anything creates a lot of noise.
Got a replacement in the post.
When you “learn” your gear over 20+ years anything can work i guess.
Many people studios have NS10 speakers for same reason
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Those old monitoring headphones (Sony MDR-7506, V6, Beyerdynamic DT770, AKG K240/271) are old and they sound bad in comparison to modern headphones. They lack in all departments but they were state of the art at some point. And it really doesn’t matter because the people know how the headphone sound translates to proper speakers.
If you have no point of reference, they will lead to bad mixes.
Those are often specifically used as a reference for bad speakers 
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… or as producers would say “good midrange” 
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What i find good is that they are trying to make some changes/improvements on their flagship models. And combine tech. I personally don’t have interest in buying a new pair, but i saw some people here on forum are looking.
I’ve found the offerings from Dan Clark Audio (pricey, yes) to be extremely good. I recently bought the DCA Noire X and I am very satisfied! Very neutral frequency response and deep bass on top that. You can EQ them a bit and they will sound better but it’s absolutely not necessary. I think it’s one of the only closed headphones out there that offer this kind of sound. But I also sold my Genelec 8040 to finance them
I never sat properly in front of the loudspeakers, so I lost all the pros. Headphones, you just put them on and they are as perfect as they can be. On the “cheaper” side, I’d always recommend any of the Sennheiser HD6xx but they lack deep bass. However, they respond to EQing rather well. I use easyeffects on linux and with a proper EQ, they sound very full but not harsh at all.
Also tried the HD800S because there were refurbished units on sale at the Sennheiser shop for 1000€. The frequency respone is very wonky but they are impressive at spatial sound and that also remains if you use an EQ to correct the frequency response. It is very easy to pinpoint sounds in the mix and if the fit is good for your head, I highly recommend them as well but you absolutely need an EQ. Otherwise, the old HD600 is much better in terms of tonality.
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At the end of chain you can drop Goodhertz CanOpener for some crossfeed if needed.
Easyeffects has a simple crossfeed algorithm as well.
Yes, it’s supposed to be different this time.
what is the application for these headphones?
+1 to captain8’s question. Are they a studio headphone for mixing or an ANC can for the road with HiFi aspirations?
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Try the HD 490 Pro.
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