Hardware not responding to syntakt sequencer

Hello Elektronauts :slight_smile:

Im using hardware (Moog Mother 32) as audio in in my syntakt for the first time. My routing is: midi out from syntakt to midi in on M32 / audio out from M32 to Input L/R in Syntakt. I choose track 5 as my midi track in Syntakt and did the necessary adjustment in the ext in mixer; volume up.
Here is the problem: Once a sequence is made and played in T5, instead of triggering the M32 it triggers T1 in the syntakt (?!) The only moment im getting sounds out of the M32 is when i play it from the M32 keyboard itself. I also have to mention that the M32 does react to the fx of syntakt (such as delay and reverb but also panning).

Any leads?

Ensure your MIDI track is configured to send MIDI on the channel the Mother is set to (by default 1 on the M32, but say if you got it used you can try all 1-16.)

I literally tried all channels, nothing works.

Forgive the obvious, but you have that Syntakt track set to the MIDI machine, and it is On?

  1. Can you test the M32 receiving MIDI with your audio interface, assuming it has DIN MIDI out?
  2. Can you test the Syntakt with any other DIN MIDI device?
  3. MUTE DEST is not enabled alongside track mute?
  4. OUTPUT to is MIDI?
  5. Is the M32 sequencer even receiving clock from the Syntakt?

This process is often just exhausting possible failure points :slight_smile:

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M32 is receiving MIDI from my audio interface as usual. And regarding your 5th point, its actually interesting, i just realized that its not even receiving clock from syntakt at all. (same DIN cable is used)
my output is usually set to USB + MIDI as im using ableton as well, but even when switching to MIDI it doesnt work neither.

I just fixed the clock receiving by activating the clock and transport send in syntakt. But audio and sequence wise i’m still having the same issue

Finally my syntakt is sending clock to M32 and M32 is sending audio back in the syntakt, its reacting to the mixer volume level , delay and reverb but its not reacting to the mute function (sound still comes out even after muting T5) neither to the sequencer (im right now sequencing the steps in M32)

Not in the gear wheel menu but on the midi setup page, did you press func then push the A encoder then release both and use the A encoder to set the channel so that it no longer shows an X in the CHAN box which the A encoder is linked to and change that channel to your desired midi channel?

It sounds like you did not perform this step from the behavior that you’re describing. If you did not push the A encoder and set the channel, it will not work.

If you already did this, can you confirm whether or not pressing syntakt trigs plays the M32 chromatically, like the syntakt is acting as a midi controller? If necessary, change the trig behavior to EXT only and then try again.

Also, the mutes are trig mutes, not audio mutes, what that means is if the mother is doing it’s own sequencing then I don’t think that pressing mute will have any impact, but maybe there’s a way around that? I haven’t tried to mute an external sequencer from an internal mute.

If you use the syntakt sequencer and send some notes to the mother from there, then pressing mute for the midi track will stop sending notes from the syntakt sequencer and the mother will stop playing.

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Hey shigginpit,

I did switch the A encoder from x to a CH number, tried all 1-16.
Syntakt trigs are not playing the M32 neither. neither in chromatic mode nor sequencing.

I’m performing exactly the same process and routings I watched in 5 tutorials already.

Seems like I need to deep dive into it :slight_smile:

Ok so next, in the settings menu for midi, there’s an option which impacts trig behavior under port config, and it should have INT, INT+EXT, and another option just for EXT.

Which of these is currently selected?

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I am not sure what you mean here, T5 is a MIDI machine and you are routing to trigger the pattern of T1, and don’t have any anything routed virtually on the Syntakt, or physically to MIDI in, or in between Syntakt and M32?

Ok guys i have literally tried all ways possible and the sequencer of syntakt still not able to launch M32.

Here are the steps i followed:
1- switching a certain track in syntakt to midi
2- assigning this track to a certain channel
3- under midi config output to set to midi / trig key dst set to int + ext
4- external mixer volume is up
5- routing: midi out from syntakt to midi in of M32 / audio out of M32 to audio in of syntakt.

Am i missing something?

Have you checked the MIDI cable?

Indeed. i use the same midi cable to trigger M32 from ableton and it works perfectly

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Check the Syntakt MIDI on your computer interface, recording in Ableton or in a MIDI monitor.

If that’s fine, I’d try updating the firmware, just to re-initialize it.

https://www.moogmusic.com/downloads/?type=Firmware%20Update

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I did a google search and it looks like the M32 internal sequencer may interfere with it’s ability to receive MIDI notes.

Go into the setup menu and turn off “follow MIDI start/stop”, it looks like you need to press and hold (SHIFT) + RESET + SET END + STEP 8 simultaneously in order to access that.

You didn’t mention this step previously and after hearing the results from your tests, I’m of the belief that the Moog is the problem, not the Syntakt.

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Worked! the issue had to do with the internal sequencer of M32 as you said.

Many thanks :slight_smile:

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Sometimes I wonder what would become of this world if we didn’t have Shigginpit :heart:

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Similarly, I would so much rather these forums focus on helping with issues, be it technical or creative blockers and try to do what I can to not contribute/succumb to the modern consumerist internet patterns.

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