Genelec 8350 - a very subjective studio monitor review

‘First thoughts’ review of the Genelec 8350’s.

Yamaha HS8
Adam S2X
Genelec 8040
Genelec 8350

I just bought a pair of Genelec 8350 (+ GLM kit) and I want to write a ‘first thoughts’ review. But I want to give the full story, give context & start way way way back. Studio monitors are subjective after-all :wink:

Yamaha HS8 : Around 2011 I started producing electronic music. I used my High-Fi speakers first, but replaced them with the Yamaha HS8 series (€700?).
It was amazing! Dedicated power just for monitoring? A huge step up from my High-Fi!

In that time my friend Marcos Salon (Outlander) helped me with mixing & mastering. He uses Focals (can’t remember which ones). Every time I came with new material to the studio, I noticed translation issues. The HS8’s were very loud with lots of bass, … but not precise enough?

Adam S2X : I was looking to upgrade to Adam A7X, but saw these in b-stock / promo for a good price (new €4000). It was amazing! Accurate lows, stereo field, depth, 3D - control!

In that time I started to go from “beginner” to “medio” producer. I knew what I wanted, how it worked, kind of :slight_smile: Marcos also gave me a licence for the Sonarworks Systemwide calibration tool. And my translations became better & better. Great speakers, great calibration. Happy.

THE END.

Genelecs 8040 : I moved to a new apartment where my Adam’s had interference (RFI) from wifi / cellphone towers nearby. Sad. Genelecs 8040’s solved that problem. Them being magnetically shielded. (Bought them for €800 second hand from a buddy). Honestly? I never liked the 8040’s. Why? They sound boring. Not deep. No stereo field. Not flattering, but also just not interesting sounding or detailed enough. Annoying to my ears. No upgrade. I moved from that apartment, sold the 8040’s, back to my Adam’s. Yey!

In that period I stared getting along with CJ Bolland. You could say that by that time my skills went from medio to semi/pro producer? Anyway, CJ’s a professional producer with a professional sound-system, in a professionally designed studio. He has Genelec 8361 monitors + a 7380 sub (pretty sure, but I should check).

And there we go again. My calibrated Adam S2X were super nice to work with, but every time I went to CJ’s, my mixes sounded … boring. As if the spark I heard in my studio was missing. And I knew, as a producer, that I could do better, but I felt limited. I could not hear it in my studio. Were my beloved Adam’s missing something?

Genelec 8350 : Life goes on. I buy a top floor apartment in central Antwerp. Again my Adam’s have interference. Too much RFI (Wifi/4G/5G - no conspiracy theories, please! :wink: ). Sad. I try & buy Genelec 8350. Problem solved. (Got ‘em for €2600 via Turnlab, €4000 new).

Genelecs were not my first choice but they have 100% magnetic shielding (No RFI) and no more translation issues with CJ’s studio monitors. (We’re doing a collaboration, so the Genelecs are also a bit like an investment).

Now, how do I feel about the Genelec 8350? Mixed!
(PS: I still have to GLM / Calibrate them!! Whoops :slight_smile: )

CON : Let’s start with the con: They don’t flatter anything. They are distant. They don’t give a damn about you or your shitty bass :smiley: (also, your snare sounds weak :wink: . So, if you don’t provide them with the right frequencies, … well, it won’t sound good and it’s your own damn fault.

PRO : Brutally honest & accurate. Exceptional stereo info & frequency depth (So much low end! The high end very precise too - aka the whole sound spectrum :smiley: ). They don’t hype, mask or excite anything. It’s like a perfectly polished mirror. No filter, no ‘sexy polaroid’ vibez, only surgical detail & precision… and this can feel like a CON. Because, to be honest, I think this is the reason why Genelecs get this love/hate reputation. I understand it! But I’m not here to have a good time, I’m here to make pro sounding music.

SHORT : If what you hear through the Genelec 8350 sound bad, it’s your fault. If it sounds good? You are a pro. It’s honesty vs flattery.

OK! This was my first impression review. I wrote this quite tipsy to fill time. Now it’s time to go out to TRAUM club, and have good time. Cheers!

PS: I might update my thoughts on the Genelec 8350 later. When I for instance installed the GLM and finished my studio (still a mess here) + made my first few songs, etc etc, like, in a few months or so.

Be sure to add your thoughts on the 8350 - or Genelec’s - or any other studio monitor experience in general! :slight_smile:

Alright have a good night.
Grt,
M.

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Congratulations and thanks for the review!
it’s too early to calm down, ATC SCM45A are waiting for you )

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Daaaaamn!

Sorry for a little off topic. But maybe you know. I remember watching this documentary, and when the fragment at 1:30 came, I lost my mind (It’s been 15 years already?!). Do you, by any chance, know that track’s name? Pretty please. :]

Anyway, as you can see, I read your review, but I will try to keep distance, moving all thoughts regarding main topic away, to not fuel my GAS. ;]

Cordially!

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…i don’t like to work on active two way monitors that leave a too wide gap between tweater and membrane…so pretty much not one studiomonitor that comes with 8"ers to the table, just to promote “i translate a little more lowend” for the costs of lot’s of lack in translation of the all essential midfield is a NO…

mixing lowest octave is a dedicated sub job and how u know ur room meets how to read analyzers…

a pity, that adam never gave full metal jacket enclosures a try…since only genelec and neumann do this…

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I have the 8330 + 7350 combo, i am very happy with them, its not loud - but its clear. I can compare them to Adam A7 and Yamaha HS8 - its way better than these, even if its entry level Genelec.

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I used yamaha hs5 for 12 years and got Genelec 8030c last year.
I was not amazed immediately but rather the more i listened the more i appreciate them. Great detail and stereo image.
I never enjoyed listening to music as much as now.
With Mixing it seems a tad easier to make choices.

I had to remove some lower db from lower frequency because i could hear some muddyness, placed close to wall and corners. And an old m audio sub makes up for the low end. I want to upgrade to a new sub someday though.

They really do seem like a good investment and i can see myself using these for many years to come!

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Seems like a pretty easy mod to open up your monitors and add a DIY faraday cage?

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…it’s not “only” about electromagnetic frequency shielding, it’s also about absolute no inner sonic selfresonance frequency interferences…at least if done, in such mathematical accuracy like neumann does it…

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A lot of monitors that are advertised as ‘shielded’ only actually have a shielded driver assembly for the woofer (and maybe the tweeter). It’s not about having an effective Faraday cage style enclosure. And in fact the Genelecs (at least 80xx series) don’t have a full-contact enclosure that would be required to eliminate all external EMI because there is an O-ring type of rubber gasket thing between the two halves of the shell to damp any vibrations. They are cast in aluminum mainly for the rigidity to damp enclosure resonances.

You can see the shielding in this cutaway 8030 (it’s the big can on the back of the woofer):

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Interesting to see its innards :smiley:

Anyway : I remixed a some of my latest demo’s on the Genelec 8350 and they are definitely a step up from the Adam S2X. More clarity, more detail, more precision, more control.

The Adam’s noise floor is also way higher - or the Genelec’s noise floor is especially quiet? My volume while listening is mostly very low, so even at quiet volume the noise floor isn’t intervening.

I still have to install the GLM / SAM stuff tho :smiley: waiting for a cable.

Grt,
M.

Yeah, Genelec have very low self noise. They are all excellent speakers. I used to use the tiny 8010s a lot, which ironically make more noise when in standby than when on (high frequency PSU hum).

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