I have an RNLA wich duty is to sidechain the individual outs of my AR.
The RNLA seems to take the ring part of the cable to sidechain.
The fact is that i want to use my kick on track one to sidechain. So i connect a cable from Bd/Bt to RNLA.
The problem is that when i use a stereo cable, the Bt is sidechaining, not the Bd. That mean Bd goes to tip and Bt to ring…
Is there a solution ?
Thanks dear fellows
Edit : If i use an Y cable, stereo from AR and mono to RNLA, the sidechain does’nt operate no matter what mono L or R is connected
You cannot plug a mono (TS) cable into the sidechain and have it work. It takes the sidechain signal from the ring, and a mono cable shorts the ring to ground.
Sounds like you’ll need a Y cable on the AR (to isolate the Bd) and a Y cable on the RNLA’s sidechain. Then you can plug the Tip side of the AR’s Y to the Ring side of the RNLA’s Y.
Or use a polarity flipper, I suppose? But the RNLA is going to be sending signal right back out along the tip. And the AR might not be happy getting voltage on an output. Safest thing is just to use the Ys.
why not use a small 10k potentiometer, or even just a trimmer? then you can adjust the filter to taste. Maybe even possible to solder it directly onto the TRS plug and wrap it with heatshrink.
Hoooo yes.
I didn’t understand what @jemmons explained to me.
Thanks for having find the right way to explain : picture.
I try it and it function well
Many thanks
I didn’t understand your post, at first.
I thought that i had to use two Y cables. I found that surprising, but my ignorance told me that i had to do this way.
Since i already use an Y cable but in the other way. The stereo part of the cable at the AR Bd OUT and try the monos successively in the RNC, without any success.
Now it’s clear. Thanks a lot for your help, it makes my setup more efficient for techno.
Cool, I’m glad it helps. Using an insert cable like that is probably not the most intuitive way to use a cable, but it’s pretty common. Analog mixers can work in a similar fashion, where there’s a single female TRS jack, and then you use one of these insert cables to go in and then back out of an FX unit.
Ho yes, good to know.
I never really use a mixer, appart for volume.
Until now my setup was very simple. Since i bought a RNLA recently (a friend told me that my “non-sidechained techno” was a bit unclear and muddy), i have a lot to learn on the send and return things (for fx), and routing of diferents percs and bass for separate treatment.
I was living in an happy ignorance.
Now, my practice is more technical oriented, and that’s not my cup of tea. Nevermind, if once the learning curve achieved i have more pleasure it will be a nice trip. If not… i would at least learn new things about sound making.
Well, nothing wrong with non-sidechained techno! If it sounds good, it sounds good :))
I do enjoy using the sidechain creatively though. I no longer have an RNLA or RNC, but I use an old presonus compressor with a sidechain input, and it’s super dramatic, plus it adds some dirt to the signal that I like. The FMR stuff is definitely cleaner.
I’m basically trying to figure out which one I should get for my master.
It should control the peaks, even out the dynamics a bit and if it gives me some nice glue then that’s even better!
But since we all have different taste, it probably doesn’t make much sense to ask what you guys preferred.
That is the first thing i said to my friend. But, since i find it lot of work to get a nice raw stereo out techno sound, but i know that is possible, i decided to try this way to be able to compare the two technics and determine what function the best for me.
Playing raw techno is my favorite because it sounds more crude and punk. But can be cool to try other things, if no loosing the prime feeling of techno routs trash sound i like.
What is your Presonus, it could interest me if makes sound more trash
I think this is true, but I can also give some subjective thoughts:
Both are admirable compressors and do that job — which is to say, both reduce peaks end even out dynamics.
I think the RNC is the nicer glue compressor. It’s really good at tightening a mix up and and being transparent about it. Especially in its “super nice” mode I really struggle to hear it. Everything just sounds more together.
The RNLA, on the other hand, exists to be heard. It’s adds “color”.
I’d also say it feels more sluggish. The RNC feels quick — almost digital. The RNLA feels like it has inertia.
So I almost always use the RNC for glue and the RNLA for FX-like sound shaping for kicks or bass or whatever
That said, I actually prefer the RNC (on non-nice settings) for techno pumping. So it’s not really cut-and-dry. I think most people would be very happy with either (or both!)
I’m not sure someone else can answer this for you, but some data points:
On Thomann, it lists for £188 new.
Reverb estimates the used value between £85—£121, but…
…that’s based on US sales. There’s only one used unit available in the UK right now, and that’s for £194 (with free delivery). So probably harder to get, and more expensive as a result.
Looking at past sales looks like the price has varied from £135–£175, but still not a lot of units going around in the UK.
