Fascinating inside scoop on being a full-time Synth YouTuber

Just be aware of sudden financial bankruptcy that might occur after a few years of working for youtube.

Whatever you may feel about people making videos, they are being watched by millions, and are molding and changing decisions, and so are sought for their popularity.

The NAMM Show is coming to Anaheim California in January. They have set up a a large Influencer Center booth, that provides facilities to influencers to record, edit and upload content. More info on that here.

Really makes sense for the shows to make these sorts of facilities available.

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But then I just watched Tim Shoebridge… dire meets miserable

didn’t really watch, but tldr: guy who says ā€œI’m not really into drum machinesā€ isn’t in fact, really into drum machines?

He isn’t into drum machines but he gives a massive mixed message at the end… almost playing upto the hype of a wannabe YouTube synthfluenzer. I’ve always begrudgingly watched his videos and as per the meaning of this thread I felt satisfied and free that I could share this here. Slaying the drum machine for all of these features that are there for a reason. It’s almost like I’m watching a video set in 1999 and the dawn of digital music creation has appeared and limitless stereo tracks are everything a boy could wish for. He’d do a better on the Krypton Factor; one of my fave shows for the record.

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haha this guy’s videos are super high quality but i feel like if he didn’t have the academic tone nobody would take him seriously.

the comments on youtube are funny lol had to leave this cheeky response

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Yeah seriously - Perkons is probably something a 5 year old could make music on, and that’s why it’s so cool. I don’t have one but it seems very playable and a lot of fun.

Too much over-intellectualizing of things that are supposed to be simple and musical. Limitations are good.

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Haven’t seen this Showbridge video. But shouldn’t we appreciate when a Synthtuber shares extended thoughts on why he doesn’t like something? And makes videos on gear that’s years old? So much complaining here is about how these guys are just all posting the same ā€žoh my god this is so greatā€œ video on day one and then the gear is never seen again.

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This thread’s natural tendency is certainly to drift in cynicism and snarky comments that one writes to feel smarter than others.

You’d be wise to refrain yourself from adding to the pile: constructive criticism makes one much more interesting to and appreciated from the Community. Touches after touches, it paints this place with better colors.

This was not targeted at anyone in particular.
But if my words find you, please understand my intention.

If you really need to offload negativity, I guess the Miserable Git’s thread is the place.

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I really like Anthony Marinelli and Blush Response’s synth related videos. I don’t really consume other ā€œsynthfluencerā€ content to be honest. Loopop also does informative videos which are welcome. As for others, they are probably for viewers different than me, and hey, they seem to get views enough to get by, so good for them I guess.

Like anything else, making videos for a living is a job, and no doubt can be exhausting, pure bliss or anything in between. I would personally never do it under the conditions tech bros have set up though, the worker basically takes all the risk yet gets a pittance of the rewards.

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I mostly watch these kinds of videos when they are focussed on something g I already own. Top picks are Stimming (via Telekom Electronic Beats Tv). I don’t like house music but I live Stimming (how the fuck does that work?!?!). He has an exceptional honesty that applies to his process.

Same for Blush Response, we all know what is going to happen when he reviews something lol.

Mylar Melodies is also a steadfast professor of modular madness and all of his examples are musical and relevant.

Loopop is all good for info but I see no real musical examples so I find it hard to be interested.

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Interesting video today by RMR on consumerism. Featuring Elektronauts heavily. I’m always amazed to find that I agree with almost exactly half of what he says and I’m not sure about the other half. Definitely can agree with his point about people getting spun into a frenzy about gear online. Can’t fathom calling Elektronauts ā€œone of the most toxic places on the internetā€ and saying this forum is ā€œvery bad for your brainā€ (17:01). I understand his point, but I actually think a great deal of the active community here is only passively involved in consumerist patter. Definitely doesn’t feel like a place of outright shilling or ā€œmaniaā€ over devices (mostly. The speculation threads admittedly do get a little crazy but I find that endearing - or maybe I’m part of the problem :upside_down_face:). And considering people chatting / excited about music gear to be ā€œtoxicā€ is a bit extreme to me, considering what goes on in the actually seedy and shitty parts of social media and the internet at large.

Hopefully this is a good thread to bring this up. I considered making a new thread but that felt maybe unwarranted. Mods or others, feel free to speak up if this should go elsewhere.

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Hearing a class-based analysis of the music gear consumer cycle was more than I expected. I find I agree with him 100%.
He was not calling the Elektronaut community toxic, but rather the gear lust that makes us want to abandon equipment we’ve just scratched the surface of.

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I’ve been keeping my popcorn to hand for this one landing here lol.

I mean, I wouldn’t be offended or feel attacked by this as a poster here, basically this board is just catching strays, the overall point re the fandom / consumerist aspect of the music gear world is a valid one and imho undeniably true.

I guess he could have also acknowledged that in the process of talking about gear people also make connections and learn things / techniques - not just what to buy - and get support in making music when maybe there aren’t many others around in IRL communities who are into it - the stuff he’s talking about is very much present on boards like this, but it isn’t all that they’re about.

Probably some other stuff I’d not be 100% on board with, but overall would basically agree - absolutely nails B*******r’s bullshit for one thing.

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I understand and agree with his points about gear lust. I don’t think he was not calling the community toxic. This place is only composed of forum posts by the people who come here. By calling it one of the most toxic places on the internet, to me that is calling the community toxic, deliberately or incidentally.

I’m not upset about it, he has his own opinion and I respect it. I just think as someone who fights the same consumerist impulses he’s talking about, and who comes here often, I think he’s got the causality backwards. People form into communities about gear because they have gear on the brain. Does that further promote consumer anxiety? Yes, it does at times. But I see this place as far less ā€œtoxicā€ than YouTube, for example, in making people feel inadequate and leading them to purchase new gear they don’t need.

I agree, and I think that’s why I’m immediately a bit confused when I hear someone calling this forum toxic. I found this place to be accepting and a place mostly free from politics and bickering, a nice place to learn about music gear, hear what people are making, occasionally share my own tidbits of music and actually get feedback from others. It’s the only place I’ve ever found like that (although there might be others). To me, it’s a good community compared with the vast, vast majority of the internet at large right now.

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Have not been on this forum long, but I find the community has been quite helpful and funny. I both lust for gear, and see it as a problem. ( I have enough gear, but what if I had more?)

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I stopped lusting last year, when i started to actually use the digitone and the iridium i bought at the start of the year. Actually i used the Digitone a lot more than the iridium because its quicker to work with.

Ok i still have specific wants, but not to much i learned that i have to explore a thing before moving on. Vital was a good ride and now its serum2 time, which was a free upgrade. So i think its valid point, we should use what we have and exploit it to its fullest.

I love the forum, i read a bit when i render or the ears needs a break.It keeps me focused to return to my Abelton project when i read some posts, and i return faster than from youtube distraction.

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Interesting video. Consumerism is certainly a thing, never hurts to recap the history and hazards of it. And I’ve definitely fallen into emotional spending and overconsumption, I get it.

But as other responses here to the video said, I don’t think this is a toxic community at all. There’s no pressure to even use Elektron gear to be able to post here, you can use what you want. And there’s a real give-and-take of sharing creations in the CURRENT SOUNDS COMING FROM YOUR GEAR thread, which is like this big river of music, where you can figure some stranger will at least try your track. That’s pretty amazing compared to other forums.

Personally, I don’t think a lot of the new product speculation here is very deeply felt—I don’t think people are staying awake thinking about it. Nor do I think it’s the impediment to using the gear people already have; there are other reasons for that, much discussed in previous threads. All the gear speculation is just socializing among us synth geeks—just passing the time. It’s very different here from a place like Gearspace (at least in the years I was there), where gear talk got really nasty.

Certainly, corporate power and tariffs and consumerism are a very big deal, but tying those matters to Elektronauts in this intense way is just … odd.

fwiw

(Edited for tact)

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Elektronauts reminds me of the beach town where I grew up: the locals are chill; the tourists are crazy. While randos are blowing up threads screaming at TE David about their second KO II cores, the forum old heads are off making Datsun memes. I can see how it looks insane to outsiders.

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I can waste time reading about synths I’ll never own and posting on nerdy forums all day long, but watching an animated furry discuss meta forum drama on YouTube is a bridge too far.

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