Hello everyone, hours of searching on the web and here, and nothing.
Is there a way to route (with last firmware) audio in voice into internal Filter without OB?
I own a new synth who has no analog filter, and wanted to use the audio in voice to route it into AR analog filter.
Is it possible in standalone mode?
Chears
No as far as I know it’s not possible. Ext In gets inserted right before the master compressor. Audio In goes to the recorder for sampling, but then you have to save the sample and assign it to a pad and trigger it before it goes through that track’s analog filter.
Ok but in Overbridge it is possible in audio via USB, you can havr a voice Audio In who plays like a digital voice with all processing parameters. So i hoped you can do it in standalone…if not, i’m done with RYTM, sell it and go to another brand for a real drum machine with audio processing
like what? is there actually drum machine that’s also external audio processor?
btw you know you can sample your synth and use the filters on the samples
Roland TR-8S can process external audio through its external input. You can add fx delay, reverb, you can adjust the Gain, Pan, and shape of the Sidechain effect. But thats about it. A am using it with Labyrinth/DFAM for some loops and it does the job pretty well. (Plus it has CVout)
Rytm is Elektron’s first instrument that doesn’t allow audio input processing, having been released after MD, MNM, OT and A4.*
I specially miss being able to route&process realtime internal audio through another internal track.
*not counting sidstation
ok yeah digitakt can also do those fx as well but I thought you mean like analog filters processing, I’m not aware of any current drum machine that can process external audio with analog filters, would be really cool tho, not a fan of overbridge as well but the signal path been laid out way before mk2 so there’s not much you can do about that.
I mean, you can compress external audio (and even distort to death/add nice noise), so that’s something… shame you can’t sacrifice a voice and run the inputs through a track though… would be really something…
Jomox Xbase 888, Perkons HD01, Rave O lution 309…
Oh and Syntakt, the toy, can do it…
My 23 years old Machinedrum SPS1 can do it.
The Analog Four, a Synth…can do it
And yes, i know about sample sound layered on analog ones on Rytm, that’s THE feature.
But having 4 mono audio/ext in, and impossible to process audio signal by them in place of another voice…sorry, that’s just a shame.
That’s why i’m done with the Rytm. Elektron marketing who vonlontary remove features on machines to be sure to selle other ones, when the feature was made FOR this machine, ended to keep me away from them from now.
My 20 years old SPS 1 does more than a 2019 legacy Elektron drumbox, who have all hardware to do more.
The fact that you can process ext audio with internal filters using Overbridge and DAW, via USB, and not via AUDIO IN is just nonsense. The Analog Four, Digi boxes, Syntakt, Octa, Machinedrum can do it. The Rytm, with audio sampler, and 2x2 physical jack entries? No.
Marketing facts.
not really, with OB you can route audio back to the track while the EXT IN is just wired to the signal path, I don’t think there was ever intention for this use case
except for perkons (I had no idea you can use the filters to process external audio) all the synths you’ve mentioned are discontinued so that’s something to consider, getting a box without guarantee of service in case of issues is a bit problematic.
anyway, it is what it is… you get an analog compressor tho… which other box gives you this?
The facy that i use a Heat FX after the drumbox give me compressor where i want. So (for me not everyone), it doesn’t matter if there is no one in the box.
I love the Rytm for a lot of reasons, but not enough to stay with it when i can have same punch, same samples layers on analog voices, on another drumbox (like Perkons, who have huge sequencer too). Not the same philosophy, but result and the fact that i want to put my Maschine + or my Iridium in the same box than my drums, to have the same sound type with internal process, all Dawless, since 20 years i work on hardware, mastering too. And the Rytm can’t do that. So why going forwatd whith this machine? No reason at all. I will take next days to sample all Rytm machines that is possible to sample, and after that selling it.
My love for Elektron machines stays, no problem.
I think it kind of makes sense. Original had no sampling. Mkii adds sampling via a single stereo input. So how should that work? An ext in level control on each track and then you hit record and record onto that pad? Do you hear what you’re sampling through the filter and everything? And then you change to the next pad to sample something else but oops, you left the external input turned up on the other pad so you have to go back and remember to turn that off.
Instead they kept it simple, the audio input pair goes into one sample recorder which you hear clean, and then you immediately assign it to a pad where you can tweak the filter and add fx. No need for any input routing matrix or UI.
You speak about feature that is included in 80% of samplers and synth since…1970.
And 80% of Elektron stuff since 2002 has this feature. So i don’t know how you could forget your external signal when sampling…if someone do that, just play guitar and forget about hardware electro machines.
And tell me. Why this features works on RYTM with Overbridge? And not in standalone mode? Any answer? Is the Rytm 80% capable if not connected to PC/Mac? That’s what standalone means for Elektron?
Well, for me the discussion has turned around, nothing really to say more about that. It is not possible to do, i think that’s sad for a high end machine, to most expensive actually of all Elektron machines, and seeing this feature on a toy like Syntakt just give me more reasons to stop here with the Rytm. The Marketing strategy goes before artistic mind since a lot of time with Elektron. And the Tonverk goes in the same direction, an amputed machine, to be sure to sell other stuff to customers.
Thanks all for answers.
you already got the answer but not willing to accept it, the signal path oh the external inputs not wired the same way as the digital interface.
also you need to understand that the interface required to route stuff through a certain track or two tracks is too complicated to achieve with the onboard menu system, you need to understand that there’s a reason we can’t get a second lfo and that’s because the onboard system resource is exhausted.
you do realize that rytm was made before overbridge, right? it’s a drum machine and sampler by design, not a fx box, not a filter bank.
you complain that the rytm got extra features after conception at a cost of connecting to a computer?
yeah right, they made rytm 12 years ago thinking “in 9 years we’ll make a syntakt with a feature that’s not available on rytm just to make them buy both!”
and unrelated, but calling syntakt a toy is a bit delusional.
