Expressive E Osmose

Ahhh… that’s such a beauty! I never got excited by anything mpe, finding the interfaces weird, the dreams of generic instrument playing any sound weirder, but here, a familiar interface, augmented, and a set of sounds designed with the instrument… Today I feel sad that I let pass the cheaper price offer two years ago. Beauty!

Really exciting stuff. When I first preordered I had just got into synths and was thinking this thing is something really special. I’ve realized how game-changing it really is now. It truly will be one of those instruments that limiting yourself to it alone will be, possibly, the best way to play it. I’m most excited to see how well it fits with acoustic mixes and how it sounds through amps

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Does anyone know where to order this from in the Uk? And a release date? Cheers

The Osmose was only available to pre-order directly from Expressive E and is not currently available to order.

The release date is currently TBC. Hopefully some point in Q1 2022.

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Cheers

hmm… anyone here tried the Osmose at Superbooth? I wonder if Eagen Matrix has some nice Piano presets…

thanks - quite interesting!

Sadly, just like I thought … hmh … I wonder how the Osmose compares to a Piano keybed (pressure wise etc.) - time will tell and I‘ll be looking for a nice Piano emulation in software.

Highly unlikely.

A keybed design that emulates an acoustic piano feel needs to have hammer escapement, which would add to the size of the Osmose keyboard.

https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/keybed/

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I’m expecting Osmose to be fairly similar to how the Touché felt - ie 49 mini touche’s! A gross over simplification but the best I can think of.

On that basis alone, it’ll play vastly different to a piano. I’m expecting a very light touch vs a pianos heavier feel for sure.

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A video which gives a better view of the hammer escapement of a real piano. Look at the size of those suckers!

I should have moved my arse to Superbooth21 to try this out …

yeah I remember that scene … we‘ll see next fall how it actually feels like :upside_down_face:

Within Piano emulation software, I believe that Pianoteq is the king:

https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq

I couldn’t believe my ears when I tried this and heard it the first time several years ago now.

The big question however is if the Osmose keybed will be suitable for Piano style playing.
I don’t expect normal piano action myself, but hopefully something “beyond” piano action that is actually useful and expressive :slight_smile:

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Not the first time reading that Pianoteq is good (last time when I tried to use linux with my pisound for music - I hated it…).

But you know… it’s TOO expensive. I’d rather buy two real pianos for that price (around 500 bucks, right?). Seems like this company sucks.

The cheapest option available is 129 Euros, which includes two modelled piano emulations.

You might be able to find sampled pianos that sound better to you. But if you are going to actually take advantage of the unique features of the Osmose, you will need a modelled piano like Pianoteq.

I, for one, am ready to let go of trying to use Osmose as a virtual piano. :sunglasses: :kissing_cat:

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It is kind of funny to imagine people buying an osmose and only using it to trigger The Giant

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if it works really good … why not? I hope it does. My goal is to buy some Piano learning app for my iPad and learn how to play some classics and transfer that knowledge to improvise with MPE. I know there are other options available with weighted keys that would be much better ootb. My space is limited though.

for playing piano type sounds (so just a strike) , it’ll be quite a similar to a ‘synth’ action keybed.

so (unsurprisingly) not the same as a weighted hammer action, but still playable.
also for ‘piano’ use, its only got 49 keys (so 3.5 octaves) , so that’s pretty limiting for classical pieces :wink:

I had some good time with the Osmose at SB21.
one of the question I was asking myself before was:
“Could the Osmose replace a ‘normal synth’ keyboard, e.g. as a midi controller, for bread n’ butter synths/piano?”

whilst it is a little different in feel, Id say the answer to this is YES it could (at least for me).
(unlike say the Roli Seaboard, which Id say could not really take this role, esp for percussive sounds)
I also chatted briefly to someone I know involved in the project, who has had the prototypes of the Osmose for a long time, and he said, he has been surprised how good it is as a conventional synth/midi keyboard and has often used it in this way.

so yeah, whilst you’ll hear a lot of talk about how light the (initial) touch is (and wow it is!) this is just because this is a unique aspect, and is based on particular patches (e.g. string patches).
when you switch to a percussive patch (where that pressure might not be used), then the strike is where you would expect.
not sure that makes sense, without trying it… but summary is, it does very well at both using pressure to gradually play sounds, and also having a strike action. (and both at the same time ;))

also the 2nd movement (aka Y) on they key plunge is great too… whilst conceptually its like aftertouch, its really something much better than that…

also it’s worth noting, all the sensitivity of the ‘axis’ are controllable on the panel , and are very accessible. In fact, if you watch the video carefully, you will see the ExpressiveE guy is tweaking these as the players are playing.( * ) … unnerved me, when I noticed him doing it whilst I played… I was kind of … what you up to man?

overall, I do believe it will make a good general keyboard, as well as an exceptional expressive controller :slight_smile:

in fact so much so, Ive started piano lessons (and bought a digital piano), to build up my keyboard skills - so that when the Osmose arrives, I can make the most of it !


( * ) basically as none of us were used to the action, he is backing off the sensitivity at times… particular the pitchbend (key wiggle :wink: ) , which is going to need some practice to be able to use at higher sensitivities.

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Which keyboard learn programm do you use? There are some like guitar hero - i would like something like this.