I am not an expert with the DT2 cause i predominantly use it for creating sketches-ideas which i then export to Ableton for further work.
One thing i find limiting and would love to get some help understanding with is
that i am trying to find a way that when i am exporting-recording the individual tracks inside Ableton, the channels are Dry from Fx as these are on separate channels. What is the most efficient way to render them with Fx applied but individually?
Is the only way to record them Individually by Soloing each channel or is there a smarter workaround?
You’ll need to solo each track and record the main out ( which would be the solo audio and fx audio ) if you keep the routing ‘normal’ instead of all split to individual tracks
The digitakt doesn’t output 16x delay,reverb etc tracks so you won’t get each track fx as unique streams
Hey. Thanks. I realised this so i then went to the Feature request and left my wish
My issue with Soloing is that when i record it into Ableton i had many mishaps where i lost the Overview of what is being recorded and where in the Timeline of the loop so i many times ended up with arrangements that sounded different than on the DT2 which was a big pain to re-organise. I will admit that i am an average user and no expert by any means. I have little experience with the DT2 yet since i come from the software world in a way
I hope for the Future however
I’d be amazed if they can double / triple the bandwidth of usb audio to get fx and dry audio all streaming uniquely … or magically update the processing power of the internal dsp to process all that unique audio on the same processor …… I suggest you figure out a work around instead of a hardware upgrade to usb4 or new hardware dap platform ….
It’s important to remember that these are ‘send’ effects. They don’t exist on a per-track basis. There is no way to make the effects simulatenously available to capture on individual tracks, effects is essentiall its own track.
Even this doesn’t make as much sense as it sounds - as one of the characteristics of a send track is that the various inputs are interacting within the effect.
So soloing each track will give you a different end result than recording the master. You will need to adjust the levels for each track as otherwise the effects will be summing.
If you wish to multi-track a 'takt then it probably makes more sense to not use the effects at all. This has always been a questionable aspect to Overbridge - the beauty of these machines is treating them as a ‘whole’, and by multitracking you’re losing a lot in the process. I never found it useful, personally.
I dont expect it to become a laptop with ableton dont get me wrong.
I am just wishing for things that i would find useful for me.
Example „send“ fx, since the Send is happening completely in the Software domain (unless i am mistaking of course) then why cant there be an option „Send Channel 14 through Chorus, Delay and Reverb and Record it on the Channel itself as a loop and then remove all settings and Fx and let it play as a loop“.
Dunno if what i say makes sense but i cant describe it better.
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So soloing each track will give you a different end result than recording the master.
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I personally would not mind. As long as i can apply some kind of Fx while jamming so its not completely dry i dont care if the Summ sounds different than the channel itself tbh. It`s not different than any Daw does. Its ok if the Fx build up.
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If you wish to multi-track a 'takt then it probably makes more sense to not use the effects at all.
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I do this at times. However it depends how deep i am in a project. If it sounds awesome in the Takt already it is only natural that i want to retain its sound as much as possible, in which case i would like to be able to export it as it is-as close as possible to how it sounds to Ableton. Tbh i would be already happy if i could solo a channel on the Takt, use Fx
and then be able to re-amp , re-record it into the channel itself even without it being a real time process. In a way a Freeze and Flatten kind of option. There are at times tracks-stems that sound ok already with some little delay and i dont need to tweak them anymore. In this case i would like to be able to commit and bounce it in place. What you say makes absolute sense if you use them in tandem but if i am on the go and create something then Ableton is nowhere to be seen as i sometimes will jam with a powerband at remote places where i dont carry my laptop with me.
I cannot then always compute and predict what it will sound like when i import it and add FX inside Live if that makes sense.
But i would love if not already possible technically to be able to do this ona DT3.
Its just a discussion and thoughts exchange
You could record your jam as a two track recording first along the timeline. Then you’ll have an idea of where changes should happen when you go back and do solo takes. Just an idea.
Also, and just a thought. Why do you really need to record individual tracks? I used to believe I needed to do that to EQ, apply fx, etc to individual elements of my song. Only to realize I’m really only making demos. If and when the time comes, maybe we do some proper mixing.
Now I only came to that realization a few years ago after banging my head against the wall trying to record, mix, and effect individual tracks. Only to realize, that energy could go to making beats.
The DT, with the base width filter was a game changer though
