Asked this a while ago but it seems to have got lost in the new algorithm announcements - how stable is MIDI CC input on the H90? My H9s usually become unresponsive after a short while with even the most minimal amount of MIDI CC input bandwidth. Can the H90 handle MIDI CC input?
Oof⦠my H9 has this weird thing where it wonāt hold the bluetooth connection to the control app when receiving midi clock from my MD. Any other clock source is fine.
midi cc input bandwidth on their units limitations. interesting to hear.I suggest you should contact eventide on their forum and make a topic and a request to upgrade that feature in the near future.
Still keen to hear anyoneās experience on MIDI CC stability if you are willing to share.
Thereās an H90 sitting there for a good price, but this could make or break it in my setup, definitely want to be able to control it with a MIDI LFO or two, or maybe a couple of lanes of CC automation.
For something like this you might try posting on Eventideās own forum. Their employees frequently respond and could offer some insight into what the limits of functionality/performance might look like.
My gut sense is theyāve done a fine job with this pedal and Iād be suprised if it wasnāt ready for MIDI 2.0 implementation and the extra potential bandwidth to accompany it. Iām using the USB C port for Midi myself, but Iām not hitting it with LFOās or anything demanding, just the occasional clocked tempo which doesnāt tax it.
Perhaps they can offer you some more insight.
agree
Update re: stability after using an H90 for a while - thought folks might want to know this.
The H90 will crash randomly sometimes if
EXP and MIDI CC are assigned to the same parameter. I had multiple crashes when both EXP1 and a MIDI CC parameter were mapped to Hotknob P (even if both werenāt āmovingā at the same time). Since unassigning the expression pedal, Iāve had no issues at all using MIDI CC to control Hotknob P, including running a MIDI LFO for a few hours.
(I wonder if this same conflict caused instability in my original H9s over the years - from memory, the EXP was automatically assigned to the Hotknob which might have been the source of the problems I was having)
Very Hacienda
Bout to buy one of these mainly for synth and reverb.
Has anybody sold this for another reverb they enjoy more?
Idk if Iām into all the pitch shifting stuff. I do plan on playing my guitar and other instruments too but I havenāt been blown away by any demos really.
Eventide reverbs are my favorites, Iāve been using my H90 for a year and nothing has tempted me away. It can do weird and characterful but it is also versatile with a range of verb algorithms. I experimented with a couple other pedals and sold them for an h90
Well itās a jack of trades pedal that covers a lot of ground. If you are looking for reverb specifically there are dedicated pedals that are obviously going to outperform. That being said I donāt think anything else is going to give you reverb + extra in the same package.
What are some that you think outperform it?
Strymon Big Sky & Empress Reverb. With Big Sky last I checked they had a pretty true to the original plugin you can demo. Really depends what you are doing. Some people complain about Elektron stock reverb for example and I find it pretty versatile. I am a sucker for reverb though.
For synths I would still get an H90 before either of those though just because of the wider application range and I/O. I am not in the game of collecting several pedals anymore when most of my FX suite is in software.
Meris Mercury X worth a look as well.
You can seriously get lost trying out reverbs. Big Sky vs. Eventide offerings is an age-old debate. some prefer OTO Bim. Vongon Ultrasheer. UA Golden Age⦠My take is that reverb might be slightly fetishized nowadays, something like the Eventide is going to be wonderful ā H90 has 13 algos.
Not saying that trying out reverbs canāt be a fun and satisfying hobby But I found peace by admitting that all that time, I shouldāve worked on my music instead of my tails.
Edit: reread my message and it seems a bit like a crazy rant TL;DR: H90 reverbs are very capable!
As others have mentioned, comparing modern-day reverbs is a little counter-productive. I think itās really more about flavor/character/color than about better/worse. Weāre in the golden age of gear compared to 5 or 10 years ago. Compared to 20 or 30 years ago, weāre in the Jetsonās future. There are very few, if any, truly bad choices.
The H90 is a remarkable pedal and I think if youāre considering buying one and can afford it, you should buy it because of what it offers. I personally love its reverbs and, more specifically, I love the character of the reverbs it offers. The SP2016 has an amazing voice/vibe and that sits well in tracks.
I donāt know that Iād buy the H90 just for the reverb though.
What makes it really remarkable is the fact that:
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Itās 2 fully-featured, super powerful stereo pedals in single box.
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Those pedals can be ordered and re-ordered in any way you can imagine inside the device which allow it to integrate into differing setups in a lot of different ways.
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Itās got both a functional and intuitive hardware UI on the pedal itself and also a wonderful computer/ipad/phone/tablet-based app that also allows another way to program the device.
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Itās got a boatload of existing algorithms that sound absolutely wonderful and, based on the track-record of the company, will be developed for for a long time to come.
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Theyāve just released 2 new algorithms in the last few months (Aggravate and Sticky tape) that are amazing and super functional in almost any setting. Theyāve sort of scratched my itch for
I, personally, prefer the Eventide sound to the Strymon approach to reverb. I find the Strymon reverbs to be a little too dramatic in a way thatās, for my purposes, less about working in a context and more about being cinematic and attention grabbing. Iām aware they can be dialed back and less grand, but itās still just not my cup of tea. I canāt speak to the sound of the Meris stuff, but folks seem to like it.
Iāve held onto 2 dedicated reverb pedals, the UA Golden (I love the 224 and the plate sounds they offer) and the Source Audio āTrue Springā pedal. Both have very unique voices and I like them in the context of both guitars and synths. Neither do the same reverb sound of the H90 though and the H90 covers a completely different sort of ground. I think that after having grasped the H90 a little better, Iād sooner sell the Golden and True Spring than the H90, for sure.
Lastly, if youāre into the pitch shifting and synth stuff, I just think Eventide does a wonderful job with it. Add a few expression pedals and you can cover Whammy territory, monophonic synth parts, likely a lot of what the EH synth pedals can do and more. And then when that sound isnāt what youāre focused on, you get to use the H90 in a completely different way that youāll enjoy.
My 2 cents.
Yea tbh Iām not that into a lot of the shimmer effects Iāve found in a lot of reverbs and I kind of like my reverb present but out of the way. More subtle than anything.
Thanks for all the feedback I do think almost any reverb can do the job Iāve been happy with most of the reverbs Iāve had just always looking to switch up the process and workflow. Iām sure the h90 will work out for me
There must be some presets with band delays -> pitch / crystal effects (pitch up). Possibly the opposite way around (pitch/crystal -> band delay).
This is like some kind of magic sound bath of pseudo reverb with a nice analogue synth or similar input.
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