I understand the utility of presets, but these drum sections ARE in fact dead simple. Saying they’re complex is a big stretch. Anyone with any degree of drum synthesis knowledge would have no problem getting where they need to go given the available parameters. The HD IS simple. That’s actually the beauty of it IMO.
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My point was that finding those sweet spots on such a knob per function distilled interface should be easy for anyone with half a brain.
Why cut out the rest of the range that may be entirely useful after one learns the machine? You’d be missing out on a lot.
There are other machines with limited features. It’s nice to see something with a wide range of ability that’s still got a simple interface.
Edited slightly to round off some harshness 
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I did say may. There was a time when no synth had a preset, and when they arrived on the scene it was a pretty big deal. I’m similar to you, starting everything from scratch. But I can totally understand why someone wants to be able to save presets. Sometimes it takes a while for the track to decide it’s finished.
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Oh I know, I agree with your point. I just don’t think EVERY instrument has to do EVERYTHING. That’s all. I’m glad there are synths with presets, synths with ROMs, etc. I just don’t think it has to be considered standard equipment. I love all of the above. There is a point to a machine like this though. Whether or not it suits one is something else.
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You added more, but yes even your expanded argument is silly. Wide parameter ranges
on knobby interfaces leave plenty of range to sound like complete garbage. Which isn’t everyone’s preference.
Being mad that people have different preferences is weird behavior.
The beauty of the original 909 comes in large part from the focused UI and sound.
Actually I’ve been very clear that I don’t think this will suit everyone. I’m also not mad. Just a little baffled by wishing for imposed limitations beyond obvious design choices.
There is nothing about this interface that isn’t concise to the point of bordering on TR-X0X which is your own example.
If you want a 909 get a 909 or a copy or clone.
Everything about the HD interface makes perfect sense to me. I don’t see how it could be considered confusing honestly.
This isn’t phase modulation, or additive partials or something that COULD sound bad in the extremes. This is bog standard simple analog drum synthesis with some nice extras. If one can’t get some nice sounds quickly out of it, it might be time to practice or read up or something.
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… except the wide ranging parameters as noted repeatedly. I had the Hexinverter snare - it was very hard to get a great snare out of it. Or again, the module similar to the MBrane - which Jomox added presets to because it was so tricky.
“Bordering on TR-XOX” - yes, it is. Hence these words from my very first post on the matter: “Hexdrum is looking close.”
You took the most anodyne statement about the Hexdrum - ‘some parameters look a bit wide if you’re wanting a drum machine to sit on the floor and jam’ - and turned it into accusations of laziness.
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I think y’all should agree to disagree and move on…
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Oh, I already did. 
Obviously this isn’t the machine for some people. It will be the machine for others.
I could see myself REALLY enjoying it.
Torn between this or a TR-1000 when I’m ready for new drums though. Whilst I deliberate, I shall continue on with my recently acquired 8S.
Just need a cEvin Key demo for this, and then decide.
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Filter on BD1 would be nice. That sqr wave sounds to bright. Other than that, perfect!
The pricetag 
Yeah, Hexdrum was made for Jeff Mills (-like performances).
True… 
I’m still furious they never added presets to my Lyras.
An analogue drum machine without presets is like a car without a built in satnav and self driving features.
Completely fucking useless.
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Really wondering why they didn’t implement chord mode. And scales. And a proper sample engine.
Never came to my mind there could be anything that’s way too analog.
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Do you know, this shit is everywhere.
Wanted to buy a little two seater sports car the other day.
Went to look at a Caterham.
Waste of time, got no fucking roof on it.
Who sells cars without a roof in this day and age?!
Bananas.
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I’m sure it should be easy to code in a roof with the next firmware. 
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So interesting how divergent opinions and casual small talk on an esoteric electronic device result in these kind of interpersonal dynamics where a different personal preference is unreasonable.
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You don’t have to intellectualise everything.
I’m just taking the piss.
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I am who I am. I wasn’t necessarily directing it at you, and it’s still fascinating. The techno tribalism. Hex Drums seems like THE modern 808/909 in ways even the TR1000 doesn’t. The only reason I’m talking about it is is because I love drum machines and it’s not even out yet. Can’t really comment on much beyond what it seems to be.
But I’m just going to use that too from now on. “Chill bro just taking the piss!”. How did that expression ever come about anyway? Well I looked it up:
Off topic
The phrase “taking the piss” originates from British slang and is used to mean mocking, teasing, joking, or otherwise ridiculing someone, often with a sense of cutting them down to size or exposing pretentiousness. The most widely accepted origin relates to the older idiom “piss-proud,” which referred to a man being proud due to a physiological condition (specifically, a morning erection caused by a full bladder rather than sexual excitement), hence “false pride”. To “take the piss out of someone” therefore meant to deflate their false pride by disparagement or mockery.
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