Well what i wanted to say: i enjoy watching as skilled as mr dataline performing on the elektrons. No matter if the style of music is of my personal taste 
Minimalism has to be differenced from minimal tech, this genre which invaded the clubs dance floors and parties these last years. I really donāt like minimal tech/minimal house, because I always have the feeling to be at the last up to date hairdresser or in a fashion show: too commercial for my ex punk bad tastes.
But minimalism can be very interesting, indeed.
Some examples of what I call interesting electronic minimalism:
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Suicide, Good taste!
Venetian Snares have a couple Elektrons!
Check the Tribute 45 album for an example.
I wanted to clarify my statement from page 1 to say that I think we have some members here who do great work on YouTube, and that includes Dataline. So keep it up!
And yeah, minimal music can be bad and it can be great, just like every other type of music ever invented.
Love Suicide!
Well, i donāt think that minimal or ambiant have a bad reputation here. Thatās not my intention to put a musical genre over others or uber allen.
I just notice that i would be interesting to see how specialists makes odd things with elektron gear different tempo signatures, crazy cuts and improvising programmation. Of corse if it could be like neobreak&electrofoolish stuff, iād prefer 
At least, even if some of us donāt like minimal tech, letās recognize that Elektron staff care about their customers and treat them like an audience, and not only as if they were only here for the money. The difference is obvious compared to other music companies.
In my opinion: sure it would be amazing to see some close up great videos of amazing autechre / Venetian snares / etc style stuff done with elektrons. Of course we all want that. Youād be stupid not to.
That said, Isnāt part of the allure of these styles, at least to me, the mystery of how itās done? When I listen to some of my favorite artist, I know they are my favorite artist because I think to myself āholy shit. I STILL donāt understand how to do this. Amazingā. I enjoy having to think and figure it out. Sure Iād love to be able to achieve it on my own, but in my opinion it should be earned over time and practice. If everybody could just watch some videos and recreate this insane stuff, it wouldnāt be as insane. These guys have dedicated years and years to MASTERING an artform all their own, and it shouldnāt be cheapened by being taught. Especially in these more explorative styles, not knowing how its done is hugely responsible for the evolution of the style.
Like I said, of course Iād love to see it. Of course I want Aaron Funk, Rob Brown, Sean Booth, etc to come give me private lessons in the dark art of machine mashing. However, I understand why these things donāt happen, and I can respect it.
I enjoyed the video presentation. The song was good and the performance tight as always. Obviously it shows some great technical ability, but at the same time it is tame enough and clean enough for an inexperienced elektron user to grasp whatās going on.
@HIDR: yes, this, idea of keeping mystery is interesting. But remember the old time before electronic gears, the time when you were going to concerts to listen people playing instruments. During those concerts, we, the musicians, we were able to learn something. I was a drummer during the 80ās, and of course every live was an occasion to learn. Nowadays, the master classes still exists: a great musician teach during one week to musicians not so greats. And the mystery of music is still there. Because it doesnāt lay in technique: technique is just the first step to understand music. There is so much more to understand, that I think that even if Autechre was filmed during a whole gig, in close shot, the mystery of creation would last.
For Autechre/Venetian fans, here youāll find videos of a french guy playing with Elektron machines, and destroying the good taste of minimal techā¦
Drone, i totally understand what you mean. Coming from a punkrock/hardcore background too, i learned to just not give a fuck about who else might like (or not) what i like. Plus, minimal music brought me some of the most nihilistic tracks i know - and yet they make you want to move your feet and dance. Thats what i like.
I would definitely love to watch different styles on the Elektron machines, not just 4/4 techno/house/minimal/dub - even though Iām a fan of this genre, I think there are only benefits in watching/hearing different styles of music.
But I certainly do enjoy watching Mr.Dataline perform his majic - keepāem coming Mr.D!
if it sounds good I donāt care what it is.
Funny that some people mention punk. IMO (and I might be completely wrong here as I havenāt followed the punk scene that closely the last few years), the punk of today is one of the most conservative genres, everyoneās just trying to sound like a record from '82 or something. You rarely hear a punk record anymore that has any actual I donāt give a damn what others think punk attitude.
What music has that today, I donāt know though. Dance music had a bit of that in the 80ās and the 90ās, but thatās gone now too.
Yes, todayās punk scene is conservative. I was refering to the 70ās punk sceneā¦ for me, punk is dead in 77. I begun listening punk music when I was at the secondary school, in the early 80ās, with Killing Joke, that is for me a sort of link between 70ās punk music, and the electronic scene. In the early 80ās, when my generation discovered the first available samplers (Ensoniq EPS, in my case, because it was cheap) and the rhythm boxes, most of us came from the punk (or so called) scene. Playing a synth or using a sampler was considered as a transgression of the well taste norms of rockānāroll (you know: playing a guitar was a sign of virility, but playing electronic gears made you a faggot, that sort of rock clichĆ©sā¦). But I can assure you that there is an historical strong link between late punk scene and electro, mainly in USA and Canada (near Detroit). Of course, the link has also been done with industrial scene, from The Residents/Kraftwerk/Throbbing Gristle/Test Department to F242, Skinny Puppy, FLA, etc. (the early trash sampler scene). I really think one cannot understand techno scene without a look to the late 70ās/early 80ās transformation of the music scene with the influence of punk music.
Yes, in some ways what some may call āpunkā today is very conservative. But there are bands like Refused, who were just giving so much new into this whole scene (check out āthe shape if punk to comeā, their last album and my alltime fave). And sorry for being completely offtopic
Iām glad Iām not the only one that finds all these awful minimal tech videos to be the electronic music equivalent of listening to someone play Metallica at Guitar Center.
It honestly is the most plip plop boop bop piece of shit techno I can imagine. Sorry Dataline, hope your real music isnāt this.
Iāve got a somewhat different take on this vid.
For me, stylistic questions are always a matter of personal taste, so whether or not I like the genre of a demo jam session, I try to listen ābeyondā it to find out whether I can learn something from the technical side of the performance. Even when the music itself turns me off completely, I usually can get through a demo vid by reframing it in my head as a research effort.
For that reason, what Iād find most useful in future vids is a bit more technical enlightenment.
Even a brief description of what is happening at a given moment would be a great improvement. Put a short caption at bottom (āOT scene change mutes top rhythm track using DJ filterā, etc.) each time the camera focuses on a tweak.
Of course a sufficiently experienced owner can probably rewind and pause and figure out some of the moves, but not everyone is there yet, and most people are still going to be noobs on at least one Elektron instrument. IMHO merely knowing what pages of the manual to reread would not be a complete unmasking of the great Oz.
In any case, kudos to HQ for making the effort ā¦ as others have said, not all companies treat their user base this well.
Wow - tough crowd. Its a demo - and in my view it demonstrates what elektron boxes can do very well. Its actually not much of a machinedrum demo granted, as i dont think it is tweaked a single time in the vid - just MIDI messed with by the OT. Anyway Elektron must have liked its content enough to put their name to it. Iām sure they would welcome some similarly competent example vids of other musical styles.
I do agree with the dub above though some comments would be very usefulā¦
Man, this is a tough crowd!
I called it āpornā in the title of this thread. I donāt think it was intended to be musical masterpiece. Itās just fun to see someone make sweet love to those machines! Know what Iām saying?
The typical Dataline jam isnāt my favorite style of music either, but as a noob on the Elektrons, itās amazing to see someone with such adept skills. I have a very long way to go!
I totally agree, it would awesome if they annotated these videos so we know what heās doing. But that might be an insane amount of work trying to call out everything heās doing. And hopefully theyāll have jam sessions with other artists too.
Personally, I want see some Drum&Bass!