Elektron boxes : sequencing poly not so good?

Maybe a rotate kit can do the thing yeah but why are you saying “not on midi” ?
Mpc is good for sure but I think I will try tork and write note on an ableton sequencer :confused:

I could have sworn I’d done this in octatrack midi channels, but i guess not

Is this possible to add trigless notes to a long playing note on the octatrack ?
If not this is not possible + anyway enveloppes are not the same than a Natural playing

I thought, using a nord lead two, i was able to put the root note of a chord on, say, step 1, with a long len, then add more notes to the chord on a later step, and all triggered notes would keep playing. But it’s a very long time since i tried this and if you’ve tried it and say it doesn’t work then i guess i imagined it :grinning:

(Using OT btw)

People have been asking for improvements to the way individual notes are handled for many years, so it is probably not something that can easily be changed, or it would most likely have been by now.

I don’t tend to use Elektron gear to sequence external midi devices for this and other reasons, especially polyphonic stuff but also monophonic stuff too because often I want legato which isn’t really possible aside from by P-Locking the arp legato parameter on Octatrack.

Anyway I learned to live with it and focus on what Elektron gear does best, I’m ok with it and see the midi sequencer side as a small bonus rather than a major feature, handy for certain things but no substitute for a dedicated midi sequencer IMHO.

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I really like what you can do with OT’s midi tracks, several with random arp = random chords. Up to 32 voices if you randomize arp on / off.

OT only, midi loopback

Micromonsta only (monotimbral), sequenced by OT

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So what is the sequencer you are using as side of elektrons machines ?
Thank you for the answer !

I use a Squarp Pyramid to sequence my other gear, it also has it’s own idiosyncrasies but once learned is powerful and fast to use, it handles polymeter and polyrhythms quite well, can do longer sequences, excellent CC implementation and interesting midi fx which can be automated in a very efficient way.

I said before it is to midi what the Octatrack is to samples, in that it can quickly and easily transform a basic sequence into something quite interesting.

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Isn’t it possible to record live and have the trigs automatically spread accros all the A4 tracks to achieve a 4 note strum effect?

On the digitone keys, having 8 notes polyphony I also miss an elegant way of recording polyphonic phrases played live on the keyboard…strums type chords are not accurately reproduced.

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I use a Monomachine for midi sequencing, despite it being very limited compared to newer Elektron midi sequencers (I’m just used to the way it works, it suits my music and I like using it as the master box with a midi keyboard attached). I can use multiple midi tracks set to the same channel to do “building” a chord as described, but you have to program it in - there’s no way to play it in with live record.

It’s the Elektron way, they’re really just fancy trackers and I’m happy to work like that. If you want more sophisticated poly sequencing/timing/velocity on each note of a chord, etc., it’s not really the right tool for the job. I’ve done a bit of (amateurish) soundtrack work, and I just go straight to Logic Pro for that stuff.

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It’s exactly this basic elegant strumming chord I would like to play…
Not possible on the A4 no…
I don’t know how to do because my midi setup is pretty saturated, maybe I’ve some sacrifices do…

Some grid edit type view à la cirklon CK patterns or MPC JJOS would be great, and I guess it could be implemented without compromising the Elektron workflow.

Basically being able to populate tracks while live recording when more than one note is detected at the same time, and implement a grid editor to view and edit all the tracks at once, view notes trigs and note length, maybe adding velocity as editable parameter.

Below a view of the grid edit mode in one of the MPC JJOS,
Just replace “note” by “track” and this could be it, at least for the A4.
but this must have already been asked…

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They already improved it with DN, I guess there is something in this point you raise that could be a sensible enhancement of Elektron sequencer indeed.
At a time other companies are slowly catching up, that could be a way to stay ahead.

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Yeah, although I do like the sort of parody between placing trigs and live recording at the moment. I find both equally fun. Maybe something that interpolates strum to an arp like trig condition and a strum arp that would let you easily program that sort of thing also. I don’t think it would fit as well if it only worked well as a live record function as I feel elektron really wants the sequencer to have just as much potential as a live instrument as anything else.

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Hi ! What is improved in the DT ? What is the difference with other elektron sequencers ?
I’m still interested in this digitone fm synth anyway :scream_cat:

  • You are right, let’s hope or add this to upgrade intereste for future machines/upgrade … For me it’s maybe the only thing who really need a change :frowning:
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I meant Digitone, not Digitakt :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

When you add notes to a chord, they are correctly recorded in the sequencer. A4 was not working like that, so if you were adding a note to an arp it wouldn’t sound the same when looping.
I think this changed on A4 too, since DN was introduced. Not sure, though.

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I read that both could use overlapping midi notes with different steps and different lengths. What are the differences between DT / DN?

This makes me miss my pyramid so much
It’s currently at squarp being fixed.
But the good news is I solved audio latency in Ableton
So I’ve just been live looping and junk with that… Still miss my baby though.

My fault, digitone not digitakt :slightly_smiling_face:
But I dont see differences, even with your explanztion… How overlapping notes are affecting both ?

Away from home, I have to check this on A4, I think with last OS the behavior is similar now :thinking: