looking at picking up a m:s to handle some things that take up a lot of resources in the modular - kicks, rumbles, some 909 stuff, atmospheres, etc. does this seem like a good strategy? are samples played back mono (w panning) and only the reverb/delay gives the stereo width? cheers
Itās mono samples only yeah, and the reverb gives some stereo width but I think the delay is just mono, no ping pong AFAIK.
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Love using my MS after cooking some loops with my kalimba. Pre editing on ableton with some affects before going to the MS. Still interesting to be lost in this machine and discover the result. Less is more!
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has anyone tried 120 sample sample-chains on the MS? I donāt have one atm but it looks like it should work perfectly due to the length parameter being relative to the start parameter, like on the digiās. 120 start points isnāt it?
I abandoned the idea of long sample chains (120 in particular) on the M:S. Mostly because if you try to use the LFO to randomise start point ā¦ it gets a bit weird. I couldnāt figure out exactly what was going on, but it appeared that either
- sample start point was not exact (e.g. it could have been randomly chosen as 67.34 for instance)
- sample length wasnāt effective
or both.
Anyway the result that I heard was that you couldnāt rely on exactly one of the 120 samples to play.
YMMV. If you experiment successfully with chains of 120 and randomisation, I would be interested to know.
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cheers Bibenu.
the 120 didnāt work so great on the rytm for me. itās different parameters made it a bit fiddly. 64 on digitakt is perfect. Iāll give it a spin next time I have an MS in my possession. I tend to p-lock em rather than use the lfo, just personal preference.
Sample chains of 4 are super convenient for p-locking on M:S ā¦ FUNC + sample start goes in increments of 30.
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nice 
so nice what you can get outta the model samples
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My focus has been on DT but I should put some more time into the M:S.
Itās right here and waiting for attention after allā¦Iām embarrassed to say that I havenāt even tried to put em together yetā¦
Edit: Brown Paper Bag sample on the Flip It video?
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yeah itās so unassuming lookingā¦
you canāt fuck with the ModeL SampleLs
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Finally got one of these instead of a Machinedrum or Analog Rytm ā¦
At first I was amazed at how basic and boring it is ā¦
But once I loaded it up with samples, that instantly changed ā¦
The old Elektron mojo is present ā¦ a thoughtful machine ā¦
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just imagine if we could sample and slice on this thingā¦
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I had Model Samples for about two years before I sold it in favor of Digitakt OG (two years before D2 release) and I instantly felt how old DT was. For sure DT offers more tracks, envelopes, connectivity and so on but it lacks immediacy and overall fun. I get that those two are different machines but Iāve never spent so much time with DT as I spend with MS. MS feels more modern and having 16 step sequencer right under the track buttons is very clever move. I was disappointed with DT so much taking into consideration the price difference. Even with two more tracks, it didnāt make a big difference. I was really really upset by the fact that I have to load (choose samples) in advance, that killed the way I did music with MS, where you could just pick whatever you want immediately. As for new DT2 I personally expected new design that would be similar to MS/MC series, with way better display. Change my mind 
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The Digitakts have a 100% chance P-Lock 
Iām finding that the Elektron Model:Samples and Roland SP-404MKII work together very well. The M:S is great at the micro scale, the SP at the macro scale.
Iād also add that the Blokas Midihub can add a lot of value to the M:S. Iām using it for a gate mode; sustain pedal support; polyphony; multi-sampling; and a transpose mode for MIDI output.
I think all three can be purchased for about the same price as a Digitakt II at the moment (in the UK). Not to belittle the Digitakt II, by any means ā I might be tempted swap out the M:S if I could justify the cost. I would bet those who become really conversant with the Digitakt can get what they want from it fast.
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The general consensus I think is that the main problem with the M:S is it doesnāt sample.
I enjoyed a lot my M:C, but a couple of things in the workflow I hated: default note per track, no way to know which sound is used in each track. I still made an album centred on the M:C.
While I personally feel like the two additional audio tracks make a big difference in itself, imho the biggest advantage of the (OG) DT over the MS in this regard is resampling. If youāre willing to work with it, track limitations are much less relevant. The MS always felt cramped to me in comparison. Run your resampled beat / chord progression / melody ā¦ through the werp/pitch/slice machines and you can get some really cool sounds as well.
I agree with you on this. Itās probably the only thing I miss from the MS though.
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i was on the same boat. had M:S for over 2 years before buying the OG DT, but i wanted to keep the M:S (just love this thing man)
i played with the digi a bit, but then felt overwhelmed, maybe i didnt have enough mental space to learn new stuff at the time. last 2 weeks i spent some evenings with the DT and once iāve developed some muscle memory and found out how to do certain things - this machine is fucking awesome
i connected the audio and midi from M:S and Microfreak to the DT, and now i basically have 14 audio tracks between M:S and DT, I sample the shit out of my gear, I sequence Microfreak params using midi CC in DT and its tons of fun
even simple things like layering sounds and resampling it on DT is worth it, the screen is way better
my advice to you is to spend some more time, develop some muscle memory and see it if clicks for you. it did for me and iām glad i kinda pushed myself to learn it a bit more, because now iām having tons of fun and finding new stuff i can do with it is pure joy
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