Do you consider the ethics of synth manufacturers?

Me too. I decided to just play the game and rank the answers, even if the column header’s isn’t perfect.

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In the future design the question as a simple ranking eg. Please rank the following in order of responsibility for environmental impact of a product.

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Weirdly I wish Behringer had retailed their Rd-9 for twice the price, build it with better casing and switches and did a better job ensuring the safety (and trust) of their factory workers.

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not really but I am thankful that most synth makers of eurorack are fantastic in this regard. Noise Engineering makes great modules and does nature conservation donations to wildlife. I have many of their modules.

I didn’t have time to read whole thread and I might repeat someone, so sorry in advance, but I will refer to OP.

As prelude I want to lay down one foundation. There will never be good solution from top to bottom that would completely solve problem of destroying environment or giving bad direction for progress, so to speak. The reason is simple and provable in two ways thru mathematical models (Game’s Theory and Evolution). Furthermore, psychiatry seems to agree on that: political class is heavily overrepresented by sociopaths and psychopaths and always will be, unless there will be paradigm shift (and I mean paradigm, in changing axioms, so we talk deep change, deeper than any political group that I have heard of ever wanted). And we could be having academic discussions for hours about implications. But I wanted to share one anecdote from many of my working near politics and big corporations (rather with top tier workers, CEOs and with press), inspired by mentioned words by OP.

When we (directors of one of major car manufacturers, press and I) created one company, the point was to engage in CSR funds from one of those manufacturers. It became clear to me what an illusion those funds are. I pulled myself out of this project because of ethical reasons, but I still know those people (one of them being my childhood friend, from which I also had to distance myself).

I also think that most people want to do good. They want to be at least perceived as good or act good in their own eyes. This is my own observation and this seems to align at least with majority of psychiatric and psychological works that I have read and talked about.

Anyway, I know that I didn’t answer directly, what OP was asking for, but the answer is here indirectly, with a pinch of some knowledge from my own experience.

To finish off: I don’t claim to know the truth how world works, but my experience at least showed me how it doesn’t work. Like with deduction: I found out in specific environments, what isn’t truth, and this is just part of deduction process to cut down at least some of the illusions that people believe in. I was engaged in energy industry, shopping center constructions, medical and pharmaceutical business (financial branch) and many small endeavours that popped up near press and politics.

Sorry for this long rant, but I hope this will at least inspire OP to look deeper into what CSR is and how it is used and go deeper supply chain and what is the flow of goods and money in general to understand how it really works - and this is only in one case, with one company - before assessing if I, as the consumer, am feeling good cooperating with that one company. I specifically bolded one company, because if I was outsider and was to assess one of my companies, it would take me very long time (one case that is put in Strasbourg has small subset of things going on, selected just because they were able to be traced from beginning till end, and that is over thousand pages of documents and around 400 pages of comments - if I were to note down even worse cases that I know about but are impossible to document with existing documents, it could easily exceed 10.000 pages [actually, one case in local court had more than that, when I think about it right now]).

Now I’m done. Sorry for long post. :]

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I’ve built surveys before so I know it ain’t easy. I didn’t want to suggest it is.

It’s always super tough trying to accommodate for other people’s interpretations of things and the ways tiny UI choices or limitations will effect them.

I like that you built it. I’ll give it another try tonight.

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If I only known what I know now two days ago! The good thing is this can all be delineated in my methodology. It gives me ample room to critique my approach to convenience sampling, mixed methods, and improper piloting and vetting of the survey. There is space to leave your thoughts at the bottom of each part of the survey (there are three parts), so if you have any other commentary, please provide some for each part. I’m now realising the importance of the rich qualitative thematic analysis I can go into with all these comments. There are so many!

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I would try to turn the fact that you drew respondents from a synth forum to your advantage. You just have to consider what this means conceptually for your research and discuss the boundary conditions that this induces for the theoretical generalizability of your results.

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You are (probably) going to get results skewed towards caring more (about CSR) if a large percentage of respondents come from this thread because selection bias.

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The survey has been posted on a new thread here on Eletronauts and six other forums with brand new threads. I tried to drive some traffic from here, which may be reflected in the survey dataset.

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Last and final bump. 16 more respondents to go!

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i just want to find something that works and is a good deal and isn’t made by berhinger

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Thank you to everyone who participated; this has been a valuable learning experience. Chat soon!

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