DNK midi loopback - PC send/receive (SOLVED) and now can't figure out bank changes (ALSO SOLVED)

[SonarBk]

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First post, long time reader

*****I SOLVED IT!!! Brand new Elektron user and pretty pleased with myself, hope this can help someone ********

So, I just got my first Elektron machine, DNK and I’m in love with the sound and workflow. For my use case, chaining patterns is important and although I learned how to do it in pattern chain mode with tapping them in, I’d prefer to do it with midi loopback and program change commands P-locked.

I have it working great! Except - it only works about half the time. I can play a pattern, it switches to the next beautifully, and if I go back and play it a second time sometimes it doesn’t switch anymore. Sometimes it does! No setting changes. I have all the M Len stuff to 64 all around. There are no sneaky trig conditions set up. I can totally clear the pattern, redo with a Plock, and it might work or might not.

(SOLVED!!! It needed the PC on both trig 15 and 16, when I did that it works every time)

On to the next post, please help with bank change…

[SonarBk]

Next question - I was able to Plock bank changes and it worked on external gear but I can’t get the bank change to work using midi loopback. I set the PC send/receive in the main MIDI settings menu but there isn’t an option to set the channel for bank send/receive. Can someone explain how to set it up within the pattern settings? Many thanks!

[SonarBk]

AHHHH after much searching… I haven’t tried this yet but seems like the answer. I’ll report back and hopefully this will help the next person who wants to use DNK in a song context.

@PeterHanes

Both Digitone and Digitakt have only 128 patterns, so the Digitakt can selct the appropriate pattern on the Digitone just by using a MIDI Program Change message. There is no need for a MIDI Bank Select message. Just select whichever pattern you want and (if you have the correct settings on the gear) the appropriate pattern on the Digitone will be selected.

Elektron refers to each set of 16 patterns as a ‘bank’, but that’s not the same as a Bank in MIDI terminology.

[SonarBk]

YUP that’s the deal!
For changing banks on the DNK itself, ignore the word “bank” and just add higher PC value, so PC 19 = B03

MIDI Loopback is great and why did I avoid Elektron for so long. I thought every Elektron box would be equally hard to learn but DN/DNK is so friendly.