Digitone Keys HOLD button cc/nrpn transmitted

Elektron Gear Digitone/Digitone Keys
#1

Hi

Would someone please tell me what cc/nrpn the DK transmits to achieve the midi ‘HOLD’ functionality? I’d appreciate knowing this, if someone would be good enough to hook their DK to a midi monitor of some sort and letting me know that would be great.

Context:
I’m trying to get my A4 to latch/hold when just playing the synth (not sequencing). The A4 does not respond to a sustain pedal from an external keyboard as discussed here:

The last poster states that their Digitone Keys has a ‘hold’ button, but the manual does not state what midi message is transmitted to achieve this (from what I read in the midi implementation charts at the end of the manual).

I’ve tried sending cc 69 (hold 2) but that does not work:

“Another way to “hold notes” (see MIDI CC 64 and MIDI CC 66). However notes fade out according to their release parameter rather than when the pedal is released.”

#2

But it would have to respond if the external keyboard is controlled by said Sus pedal and then sent to A4

As you mention, the A4 won’t parse sustain, so I think the DNK message will make no difference, but I’m happy to sniff that on a midi monitor ftr. Will report back shortly

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#3

Thank you

#4

The ‘hold’ button doesn’t transmit anything at all when pressed in isolation

If you hold a note and press it, the note off message is ignored when you release the keyboard key

when that ‘hold’ button is finally released, any note-offs ‘ignored’ will be spat out together

It’s a lazy button to keep keys pressed or to ignore note-offs

this won’t help you wrt the A4

i haven’t tried the sustain pedal input a cv control port on rear, it will be exactly the same - it will silence note-offs

not sure there is a way to get A4 to hold, unless the keyboard messages coming externally are themselves held - i.e. the A4 won’t ignore key offs it will just await them when they arrive

#5

Thanks for checking, it’s appreciated. Back to clothes pegs on the keyboard

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#6

Knives between keys is a proven method…

#7

Digitone (not keys) doesnt have a hold button but can get the hold or sustain function via midi.

The midi cc s 64

#8

That’s not supported on/by the A4 though, I guess the op was hunting for alternatives that could somehow be ‘ported’ from a DNK

#9

great stuff, will upgrade my clothes pegs to knives (have some gigs in some rough places) :wink:

#10

Thanks for the suggestion, cc64 is a cc the A4 does not respect.

#11

I have a solution but it requires a device that is capable of filtering out note off information. In this case it is a Mutable Midipal (no longer made). Building a programme via this interface, https://midipal-editor-350009.ew.r.appspot.com that filters out note off info on channel 8 (very simple to do), as that is my A4 auto channel. Using a programme like sysex librarian to upload the sysex programme I made to the midipal and Hey Presto, an A4 with a hold latch mode. So easy!! :wink:

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