Digitone 2 vs Syntakt

That’s the spirit! :grin:

Can anyone make me understand what do you mean Digitone doesn’t have send effects?
Why the effects block is so much more on Syntakt than Digitone ll?
Thnks!

Both have send effects (Digitone has delay, reverb, and chorus, plus master compressor and digital overdrive), but Syntakt’s FX block includes an analog drive, multimode analog filter, reverb and delay sends, and an effects sequencer lane with LFOs for, say, gated reverb, modulated delay, rhythmic filtering or ducking, freezing delay buffers, and the like. The Digitone effect parameters do respond to midi, but the FX track on Syntakt makes more elaborate fx sequencing or punch-ins a streamlined part of the workflow.

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I have DNll and I wonder if Syntakt will do anything more or different for me…
(Apart from the analog machines)

And the sampler.

And the sequenceable FX unit.

I dunno, take a listen to some Syntakt Science labs to hear what it can do the the DN2 can’t. :slightly_smiling_face:

This is a good one:

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Calling it a sampler is misleading.

It has a sample playback machine. A powerful and welcome addition but a sampler it is not. :wink:

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… but DNII has a dedicated Chorus :wink:

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Yeah, that part’s a bummer on the Syntakt. You can fake it, but…

:angry:

Byt the Syntakt’s FX filter has a double notch type that makes for a great phaser!

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It seems that drums sound better and more flexible on Syntakt. On DN2 seems hard to make certain drum sounds…

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Definitely.

What kind of sounds are hard to make on the DNII?
To me, it’s the Analog bass and pinging analog filters that I struggle to reproduce, but I can’t say I feel limited when it comes to drums, and especially morphing a kick into a snare into a hat ^^

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I would say different for sure, but ‘better’ is awfully subjective. I’m thrilled to have both machines and a truckload of options

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Hard Disagree :stuck_out_tongue:

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(Making awesome sounds on Syntakt is working against those damn machines, making awesome sounds on Digitone II is working with the machine. Not saying the former can’t be fun or a cool approach. Just presenting my view.)

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That actually works too on the DNII too (example is just the output of the DNII as usual, and the only thing I had at hand right now), though it does not ping as strong [long] as on A4, ST or Rytm.

and of course

One of the methods for filter pinging on the DNII is to use FM Drum, DEC to 90 and then Decay to Zero, in order to just have a sharp impulse. And then just Filter with Resonance!
On the Amp Page, Attack can be zero for a sharper attack.

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Yeah, the filters on the DN2 are really good.

(but a little bit conservative on the parameter ranges)

I think “it depends” :wink:

My $0.02…

Neither is perfect, neither does everything. Both of them are missing big things that the other can do. eg. DN2 has polyphony and chorus, Syntakt has sample playback and sequencable FX unit (eg. for global filter sweeps).

Which to choose if you can only have one box in the house?

The ST makes it much easier for a casual user to find “usable sounds” and have fun abusing them. Limitations lead to creativity.

The DN2 is a better fit for somebody who spends hours using it every day. It goes deeper, yes, but it also demands more from the user in return (IMHO).

Notes:

  • The ST’s new sample playback makes almost any argument based on “drums” moot. The best 808 hat is a sampled 808 hat. :wink:

  • If you get a DN2 as a newbie then a soundpack is a must-have, especially for drums.

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I’m coming from the future and Syntakt has gained the status of a legendary Elektron box - a one off palette of tricks, a bare-metal, analog/digital Elektron «best of» in compact form (especially after its final update in late 2027 which brought a sid simulation, voice synth and physical modeling machines).

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:crossed_fingers:

Syntakt still has a lot of stories to tell. :wink:

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i have both, they sound vastly different and i can’t sell syntakt because there’s 3 analog mono synth and analog hihat plus analog fx channel that you can’t replicate exactly in the DN2.

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Big fan of Jeanne’s work with the DNII and purchaser of their sound packs. But what’s really missing that absolutely cannot be replicated no matter how anyone tries in the fm world is the analog oscillators for bass and drums. They just hit in a way fm cannot in my opinion. In my opinion. Yes, it’s my opinion, not objective reality. Both boxes work wonderfully together and when used side by side are greater than the sum of their parts, but I’ll take the syntakt solo over the digitone 2 solo.

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