Maybe he should try it with an OT Mk2 as well.
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It would definitely be better to hear the source direct too, that way we would know if the OT is losing top end or if the DT is adding it, and if the bottom end was more like the OT or DT.
Regardless of if the OT was at 16 or 24 bit I still prefer it, but it would be interesting to hear both.
It is difficult to tell from the comments but it may be that Enrique was not aware that the DT sums to mono, I think it would be interesting to hear both machines in mono to rule out any phase issues on the DT also.
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This.
ā¦without reference it might be difficult to judge.
What makes you say that? (Curious)
Iāve seen him do similar tests and itās just not his forte. He also added an update saying he listened in his car and found the OT had much better low end to his ears. Probably shoulda done that before releasing a video, not after. Not a dis, I just donāt think those kinda shootouts are a specialty of his.
I did similar tests when I first got my OT and found little to no difference between the two machines
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Good point - I figured that might impact things a bit, but also didnāt think it would make that much of a difference. Kinda serves as a reminder of what exactly gets to your ears via any given medium.
I made my first ever comment on YouTube to ask if it was on 24 bitā¦ 
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Granted, the video was not āwhich one is more neutral.ā However, without taking into consideration these things, the picture is less clear.
Everytime someone complains on this board about the OT sound people point them to the bit rate and they come back appeased.
Thereās nothing inherently wrong with color in a sampler (at all. SP12ks fetch thousands for its), itās just something that needs mentioning.
I think the DT is aimed towards a market that expects spice on their samples.
If I want that spice I use the DJ eq. Itās very good.
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I remember a shootout Enrique did with like 5 samplers, the OT being one of em. His playback levels on each machine were pretty out of whack with each other. Like, obviously different levels.
No matter how savvy we think our ears are, the āwinnerā is simply going to be the loudest one
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Well the sound quality of his voice in his uploads is explempary. He obviously knows his stuff. Its not denegrating the OT so i wouldnt take it personally if you have one.(i have an OT2) and i dont mind. I find the OT more organic and less digital than the DT. I prefer the sound of the OT because its easier on the ears.
I liked both examples and have OT2, what I heard from DT was good but didnāt make me think I was missing something. Makes me think I should get in the studio and crack on.
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What does the sound quality of his voice have to do with his testing methodology?
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The thinking that he understands acoustics in video uploads. So hes putting you the listener first. Integrity when most people cant be bothered. I trust him. His methodology would be borne out of this.
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That just means he bought a good mic. On the other hand you have the fact that the OT was in 16 bit, the lack of original audio for comparison and his history of mismatching levels. I wouldnāt call this a perfect or definitive test by any means.
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I love the dude and subscribe to his channel. He also has a very nice voice 
Just saying another sampler test I saw had seriously mismatched levels. Itās easy to make that mistake. The OT āwonā that test anyway, but in the comments a lot of folks choose an MPC 4000 as the winner. Also a very nice sampler but that fact is it was noticeably louder than anything else. Just saying
As I mentioned, and this is personal and anecdotal, but I tested both the OT and DT side by side. They sounded really similar. I just donāt think you could go wrong either way. For me, the extra functionality makes the OT the āwinner,ā but ease of use might sway someone the other way and that makes sense to me. I donāt happen to think Sonics are the deciding factor between the two machines.
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But it does feel like a knee jerk reaction against his result findings. I have an OT2 and the result doesnt surprise me as the DT does sound different anyway. Just whether or not you prefer one sound over the other.
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True. Its a beautiful machine(OT). And i prefer it any day over the DT.
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Needless to say, obviously run through an OT
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In this particular video the levels seemed quite well matched, other critisims aside, so for me it gave a fairly reasonable comparison between the DT and OT, regardless of which anyone prefers it can easily be heard that the DT was brighter and had way less bass, the OT was punchier and sounded warmer/less bright.
I think when I get time Iāll do my own comparisons between OT, DT, SP-16, OP-1 and Deluge, just to satisfy my curiosity over which has any particular mojo/qualities, and I think Iāll definitely use mono sources and sample in mono to eliminate the possibility of any phase cancellation. I will also have the source file and ensure that each sampler is playing back and is recorded at exactly the same level.
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Iām sorry this isnāt exactly on topic. I have a quick question for you guys and I know it sounds silly but but buuuuutā¦
Iāve darenager mention about sampling straight into the OT, Iāve read people saying never ever to do thatā¦ I know you you will probably tell me experiment and find out for yourselfā¦ is it really ok??? When I first got my OT I ran everything through it. Iād imagine it was on 16bit. I remember thinking that everything sounded a little flat / stale, then I checked the headphone out of my mixer and the sound was more alive. I unrouted the OT and went directly to my interface. It sounded better and I never looked back.
Guess Iām kind of scared to put samples directly into the OT. I feel I should go through the computer first and upload them to the flash card via USB.
Once again, sorry this isnāt quite on topic but Iāve been meaning to ask for quite some time and Iād like to know what you more experienced folk think.
Back on topicā¦ Iām interested to hear these differences and Iāll check them out later. Thanks for posting!
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