not even the folder of factory samples?
Those are present when browsing from a project but if I go into the import/exp menus, I have nothing on the + drive
If you are in the import/export menu you are looking at sounds. Samples can be found by pressing the settings button (cog wheel) and selecting the samples option from the menu.
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when I press the knob, I get + drive has no sounds.
That’s for sounds, not samples. Sounds and samples are different.
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This is the settings menu. The samples listing will show you all the samples that are on the +drive.
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does anyone know how to remove a sample from a pattern?
Reviving this thread with a new question:
How do you DT users manage your sample libraries? I’m not used to having a restriction of 127 sample slots in a project in my sampler. My usual (MPC-centric) technique is to load whole kits from my favorite drum machines (707, 808, HR16 etc) and have them on hand…but this fills up my sample slots with maybe 4 kits loaded. So it’s not going to work going forward. It’s a total PITA to have a project filled w/ patterns and your sample slots all filled up w/ sounds you aren’t using. If I remove a sample from RAM that is currently used in a project, is there any kind of warning? Probably not.
So the solution is to start using the +Drive in a different way, I just need to wrap my head around the architecture and workflow. I, like many here have a sample library on my Mac that is close to a TB in size…how do you decide what gets into the precious +Drive space, and how do you then work with +Drive, Sounds, and Samples in a Project?
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Sample chains may be helpful for you. They need to be significantly shorter than the ones made for the ot because of lack of zoom on the src page on the dt though
I dont think it helps you when I say that for me every sound that I’m using is special and has to have a reason to be used. I never use pre-made kits or presets and very rarely transfer any samples from my computer. Most sounds are specially designed for the specific track, using external synths, instruments and fx. But thats me and for you works maybe something else.
Occasionally I do overload my drive, when searching something very unique and not finding it. These are not good days for me…
I started with teh same problem, loading up a bunch of stuff I ‘thought’ I might use… then upon discovery of the workflow, changed into a more project specific way of thinking about samples. Like t3h, using my gear to generate ideas and sampling that etc. However, being able to zoom in the SRC tab would be IMMENSELY helpful (knock knock elektron)
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yeah, this
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Yes, so true…I always viewed them as “more work” but i see how one could use sample chains, in conjunction w/ sounds to have an entire drum machine in one sample slot. Set it up once, and you are good to go. Love this. Thanks.
Thanks for your input…I do this as well…
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From what I can tell, every time a project is opened, it grabs the designated audio files from the +Drive and loads them into RAM (aka the project’s sample menu). It doesn’t seem to matter if the audio was loaded directly from the project’s sample menu or from saved sounds in the Sound Browser.
Is there really no way to save a sample TO a project, so even if you delete audio file from the +Drive, the project can always find the sample in its own project folder?
If not, how do I clear up space on my +Drive without messing up my saved projects? It is bad enough that I have to take detailed notes every time I want to free up space in RAM (since there is no indication of what samples are used aside from manually checking them one by one, including LFOs and P-Locks). Would I need to execute the same process for +Drive file management? Is there a desktop app that can help?
Everything on the Digitakt is fast and inspiring, but this file management dilemma has me (surprisingly) missing my Octatrack.
P.S. I like the idea of only loading samples that truly NEED to be on the device, and that’s how I would like to work moving forward, but first I need to clean up after my first few months of experimenting and learning the DT, and I would like to clean up with out throwing away the handful of good patterns I made along the way, especially since the DT patterns work within a larger composition/set involving other devices, not just the DT.
Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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If you delet it from the +drive it’s gone.
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Thanks for the quick answer. I would appreciate if anyone could share techniques on how to work around this limitation to re-organize files on the DT without breaking projects. Maybing making my own project folders on the +Drive could help.
Unless there is some sort of magical software or workflow out there, it seems like only realistic option is to take detailed notes an tediously rearrange files in such a way not to mess anything up.
As of now this seem to be the safest option. Addition to project folders I also have my own ‘pemanent’ folder with the sounds I tend to use a lot.
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You could prefix an underscore or other symbol (like an ‘!’ etc) to sample names used in a project or Sound, but still that’s a bit tedious. Once used in many places, it’ll be difficult to know for sure when you want to take the prefix away if you think it is no longer used anywhere.
- A sample that is used in a Sound or a pattern can be renamed or moved and still work as intended. This is due to a hash function that adds a file specific value to every file, and this value is independent of the file name or the file’s location in the data structure. However, if you delete a sample, it will not be included in any Sounds or patterns anymore.
It would be far handier that the Digitakt prefixed automatically
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Hmmm, but the plus side is, once I figure out what samples I am using in projects and sounds, I don’t have to worry about rearranging them within the +Drive because of the hash function will always ensure that they are found, correct ?
yep - I expect it might be possible to send a sysex dump of all projects, analyse the sysex using a script for the hashes identifying the samples … but then how to correspond those hashes back to the sample names to create a ‘do not delete list’?
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