Crowdfunding — The Good, the Bad & the Ugly

geeezus, reading the comments on kickstarter is really crazy, project started September 2015, raised ~$100k and 8 years later no one got anything. how can anyone say this is not a scam? crazy.

so they make a printed empty shell, took some random pcb board with some leds on it to make it flashy, made some weird sounds in the videos that most definitely not coming from the device or any synth they connect it to, made a nice profit and blame it on … chip shortage???

The Arpeggio project has essentially been on hiatus for the past year as we wait out this chip shortage, but we will hopefully be posting updates more frequently in the coming months.

dude the project is from 2015, there was no chip shortage in 2015-2019/20, that’s 4/5 years to make it happen, gtfo, it’s a scam and they are still up and trying to make money.

obviously kickstarter won’t refund, they get their cut so who cares if it fails? real nice scam economy! :man_facepalming:

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good news, i’m getting bombarded with scam ads on Instagram using chompi images, maybe they’ll e-packet you some floss for $80!

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sales pitch of the year!

expectation:

0:50

reality:

2:59

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haven’t laughed so hard since this video

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New wind controller. Alternative to something like the Sylphyo perhaps ( ? ) but much more affordable.


Clarii from Robkoo

One of the most annoying KS video i’ve ever seen.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/787849110/clarii-mini-a-digital-wind-instrument-and-midi-controller

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Full disclosure, I’m a sax player….

I’m really getting worn out by these wind synths that demo really bad wind instrument sounds. I really want to see an electronic wind instrument that is for players who have zero concern to replicate acoustic sounds. The EWI5000 has some killer onboard sounds, but they’re never demoed well.

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That’s beautiful.

Nobody ever goes broke selling to Audiophiles, do they?

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In theory more upfront capital allows the developer to speed up development. You hire more workers ( probably contractors ), and expedite the design. That’s how adding goals without extending the schedule can work. But adding stuff also gives Murphy more opportunity to step in to manage your project. There are other flaws to this method too, some things just takes more time no matter how many people work on it.

Part of the things to look at when deciding to back a project, and evaluate risk.

As for the Aodyo Omega specifically i am still feeling calm. There is delay, but disaster risk is still very low, and that’s what i try to see coming before i invest.

Adding more staff to a project rarely results in getting done faster. If it’s work that can be outsourced, sure, but in the core project team, not so much.

Also very unworried about the delay, though.

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Yes, not even in theory does this work with product development.

I’ve done it. But it was to reverse a delay. Paying overtime too.

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Damn !!
That they called themselves “Tangible Instruments “ is the gut punch

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Loog Piano

On Kickstarter September 26th. Early bird price of $229 if you want jump on it. Rechargeable battery – and one sound, a piano – for headphones – no word that i could find on MIDI.

ADDED : Has MIDI over USB and a built-in stereo speakers.

This could work for a portable practice device ( assuming the keys are as good as they look ), or for a child to get acquainted with a keyboard given the price, and again ( hopefully ) quality.

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Do they make a mini version?

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“With musician grade sound and design”

Hilarious.
Looks nice though :+1:

Evaluating Risk

There is a big project coming up on Indiegogo very soon – the Reliq Hybrid Control Surface.

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This is a very ambitious innovative project with a lot of separate goals being done by a small startup – so that may indicate a higher risk factor. But they have been working on their own for a while which means they should be past some of the riskier parts.

It occurs to me then that somewhat enigmatically, presuming they openly show a product well along, that a shorter time schedule promised ( let’s say under 6 months ) would likely mean less risk. They still could need crowdfunding as the actual manufacture of a product is a big expense. But if they are raising funds to pay for continuation of any of the upfront design work there is considerably more risk with those phases.

This one is also a little more expensive, so you need to gauge your own financial situation as well.

Elektronauts Thread

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It’s always the risk right? I wish em well but with pandemic non-JIT supply chain being what it is if you don’t have it all done I’d never kickstart development of anything of that complexity.

I’ve kickstarted a few things recently, BPMC video synth and a Flight of Harmony module. Both mostly established small vendors working within their reach and not aiming for huge and complicated and large scale.

This one seems to just put the specs at “it’ll do everything and have every connection possible” which seems super sketchy for a first product.

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I backed The GodFather, a multichannel Audio Processor on INDIEGOGO. Everything turned out well. I was very impressed of the unit when I saw it on videos and read about it.

Right know I am thinking about backing the Reliq: the World’s First Hybrid Control Surface. It seems a bit overkill, but has been fun reading about it on discord and it is exciting, to be part of it.

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