Cheap open headphones suitable for mixing?

Isn’t that more of an “audophile” site?

The 7506 isn’t a “perfectly neutral” set of cans, it’s neutral enough, easy to find and replace, and not a huge budget breaker.

Reznor et al used them because they were “good enough” to get the work done without waffling over spec.

Threadposter asked for cheap and suitable, and I think they qualify to that end :slight_smile:

DT900 Pro X is a different story, not like for like comparison with DT770

I had this headphone, its pretty good for mixing. A bit less in the low department in comparison of the audio technica 50 i also have. Also the design is kick ass.
Be aware of the cable though, its not curly. A bit in the same price range too.

If I understand it correctly, these Rolands essentially identical to the ATH-MX50. Same driver and very similar performance.

After carefully considering all helpful input here, I’m leaning towards the AKG-371. They seem to have a good, flat frequency response that hopefully won’t color my mixes too much. I’ve read waay too many reviews about the DT-770s having ear-piercing treble to definitely rule them out.

The advice to always listen to lots of references is solid and I already do that extensively. In fact, I’ve set it up so I can toggle between the project and other references using keyboard shortcuts in Ableton to quickly jump back and forth, it’s pretty neat (b for previous mix, c for the first reference, d for the second reference, and so on). So I’m not expecting any pair of headphones to stop my brain from being tricked and misled. :blush:

Will patiently wait for the eventual Black Friday sale before pulling the trigger. Might go for another pair depending on deals. Thanks everyone for your input!

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You will be ok with AKG-371, I think. I like my AKG 361’s (used to have MX50s, which broke on me, and they are comparable), but prefer the DT770 as the soundstage and clarity is much better. I would never call their treble ear piercing, if a bit silky and forward leaning. I also have the DT 1990 Pro MKI, and while they are amazingly clear and “correct”, they are not as comfortable.

Thanks, I guess most reviews exaggerate the flaws of the gear people chose not to buy, and a lot of it comes down to personal taste. But knowing my own ears, I quickly get fatigued by strong treble so they probably wouldn’t be comfortable for me. Plus, I read they have a 3 meter long, non-removable cable.

Either that or the coiled cable which I have. Heavy, but not bothered by it too much. Yes they are definitely trebly, but in a pleasant way to my ears. Avoid them then, if you don’t like that. With AKG-371’s try different positions on your head until you get it right, as they are very dependant on positioning.

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I wouldn’t recommend the DT-770s if you’re sensitive to highs. I own them and struggle with Beyerdynamics’ sound signature, way harsh up top for me.

I don’t know the M50x but I had a pair of the OG M50s and I remember them being hyped in the bass frequencies but pleasant and exciting to listen to.

In that price range you’ll be making compromises anyway, and mixing on closed headphones brings its own challenges, so I’d just spring for whatever sound signature I like the best / enjoy the most and take it from there…you seem to like the M50x so I’d suggest you just go with them - you gotta learn the sound of anything you mix on anyway.

Just ordered a pair to give them a try. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Yeah, that’s where I’ve netted out, they’re off my shortlist. Thanks for confirming it.

I don’t necessarily like them, it’s just the headphones I’ve had for over a decade. I found mixing on them to be difficult compared to my (also old) OG Sony WH-1000X. The Sonys accentuate the ~300-800 hz range better which means I hear problems in the mud area better than I ever did on the Audio-Technicas. I do find it a tad annoying that you need to leave NC on and drain the battery in order for it to sound decent though, which is part of the reason I’m looking to buy dedicated mixing headphones.

Very true. I mainly mix with my Genelec 8030As and mostly use headphones when I’m unable to hide in my studio. And I use a pair of Bose QuietComfort with boosted bass EQ to spot the obvious sub bass mixing mistakes before bringing the mix to the brutal car test. :sob: :joy:

I’d be very interested in hearing your thoughts on them! Feel free to report back here if you find the time for it. They’re almost half price of the AKGs in Sweden at the moment.

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Will do! They should arrive tomorrow. I’m not huge on mixing on headphones, but like for you, sometimes family duties leave me no choice :slight_smile: I’ll report back.

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HD25 with yaxi comfort pads are really nice. Got some decent mixes with them but sold them because I have a quite big head and after surgery it was too much pressure for me on the area

They’re on-ears though right? That’s not an option for me unfortunately.

I had a pair for years. I thought they were great until I read reviews and realized the high end wasn’t that great for “flat” response. I bought calibration software and it confirmed it. When I A/B’d it I was shocked. I use the software now to correct my ATH 50xs and it’s perfect.

What software is that?

Sound ID Reference It calibrates your headphones (or monitors) to give the flattest response possible for them. Very interesting technology.

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I’ve been rethinking a bit. I already have close back Sonys that I can use when around the family.

What I really should look for are open backs to complement the monitors in the studio. There’s a deal on Sennheiser Hd650 and I’m considering pulling the trigger. Any thoughts on those from people and are there better alternatives in that general price range (now closer to 250 EUR).

I have them, and i loved them since 2008.

The price is amazing, i would buy a second pair

I paid mine £299 which were €400at the time

Back in the days they come inside a nice sort df jewel box old school that was than going in a carton box / perfect from storing them away from dust

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I suggest demoing Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X (not to be mistaken with 770) These can be driven without hefty amp as well. I own 900 Pro X version but heard good things about the 700 too. Mids are kind of in your face but a touch of EQ and they sound really good.
Clamp force is high though, so you might want to actually try before buying. These can’t be bent like the previous models.

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I tried out plenty of headphones and maybe my ears are strange but AKG K-361 was the clear winner. I have owned the AT’s before and K-361 seem much more clean and not favoring a frequency range as much as the others. I had the AKG K-371 first but id didn’t sound as good and had some design flaws like metal covers tapping strands of hair. Does anyone else see the K-361’s as the clear winner in the $50-150 range? I was relieved because everything else sounded so compromised. They are also cheaper at $80-100.

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