My apologies for overstating things. You’re absolutely right, you didn’t say that. I feel like many people sometimes pigeon-hole what the CB pedals are cable of doing and I bristle. (Note: I don’t think this is what you were doing either - I was just being reactive.)
I do think their UI’s often obscure their full feature sets and it takes a great deal of effort to really dig in and get each pedals full capability.
Personally, I don’t think you’re going to get BBD sounds that do quite the same thick, gooey thing as a good bbd chipped device. I’ve got the EAE Sending v2 (which I’ll be selling shortly) and, for my personal tastes, I’m just more into what Big Time does.
I think for the BBD sound I enjoy is just more simple as well. For fast, analogue slap I could use something much less sophisticated and be very happy. I can get sounds out of Big Time that can do something akin to what I’d personally use a BBD for, so I don’t really feel like I’m personally missing much. I’m also a child of the early/late 80’s and the sound of a digital delay just really works for me aesthetically.
Re: the editors, I do know about the Morningstar Midi Magnet product and it looks great. I hope people adopt it and build out what it could offer to a broader community.
I’ve been messing with various sorts of CB editors for about 6-9 months now in various formats. My first experience with using an editor with their pedals was the ZombiePedals Mood MKII editor. It blew my mind how easy it could be to control such a complex pedal in a more visual way. I started playing with TouchOSC and really loved the idea that you could get a very hands-on feel for the inner workings of the pedals. I was immediately able to get things out of Mood MKII that I simply would have never, ever arrived it with hands-on use.
Unfortunately, I found TouchOSC to be very fiddly and not at all user-friendly, so there was no way I could share the work with other people which made it much less attractive to me. It recently occured to me that working with web-based editors made sharing trivial and that I could also build out some very clean GUIs. I ported my initial builds from TouchOSC into Claude and created newer web-based iterations. I’ve since realized that the fixed form-factor creates a perfect basis for a much more automated build process, so I’ve been working to codify the visual language and functionality. At this point I can pull a Chase Bliss manual and the midi manual into my project and it can build an editor that’s about 75% of the way there visually and functionally. I’m still refining things, but my hope would be to build a whole suite of editors for all the pedals and just put them out into the world for people to play with. It’s an amazing way to really understand the pedals much more deeply. Changing DIP settings in front of your face and hearing what happens is much more intuitive than leaning over the pedal with some small object to push up a tiny switch and hoping you touched the right one.
Here’s what the most current iteration of the Mood MKII editor looks like. It’s the most far along of all of them functionally and visually. I’ve also built out editors for Lossy, Lost and Found and Onward. L&F really benefits from the editor. The control names change as you switch through the differing settings, so you have a very clear idea of what all the modifiers do as you change things up.
