Can't play minilogue XD with OTMKII

Hi everyone !

First, thanks elektronauts, this forum already helped me a lot !
But today its seems that I don’t understand something…
I’m still learning how to play with OT and I tried to use midi channels to use my OT for playing the minilogue.

So, I put midi thru of OT to midi in of the minilogue ( tried with midi out too ) and the minilogue is set on channel 9.
on the OT, I checked Transport send and on the minilogue I checked the Received settings is ok.
For now, all is working, OT start the minilogue on clock and I’m using a launchpad pro which is working to playing the minilogue on channel 9 so, midi infos is transmitted well !

As I saw on Manuel and internet, I set one audio Chanel with machine Thru which receiving sound from in A and I set a midi channel, on 9.
And when I’m playing with chromatic or else, no sound…

I’ve set a trigg on 1 for the audio but nothing too. I’m still having the sound if I’m playing on the minilogue or launchpad.

I also tried to set to off the transmit Settings on minilogue to avoid midi issues, and now I think I’m lost… or maybe there something I missed and sorry in advance if its easy, but I’m pretty sure that I didn’t find the right answers on other topics.

Anyway thanks for reading this and thanks if you see what I mean haha
I can post photos or else if its needed

MIDI THRU transmits what is incoming on MIDI IN. But it doesn’t send OT information.

To use OT to control the Minilogue, you have to use MIDI OUT.

If the Minilogue is set to channel 7 for instance, you have to set one OT MIDI track to 7.

Don’t forget to disable OT Audio track control.

If you plug a controller on MIDI IN, you will have to set it to OT auto channel (default is 11). Then select the OT MIDI track for the device you want to control.

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For the midi controller, everything is ok, is set on the right auto channel on OT, and the minilogue is on channel 9.
So I set a midi channel on the OT to 9, problem is that I tried with OT’s midi out to Minilogue’s midi in and still have nothing.
And I don’t have sound even if I plugged off my Volca and the launchpad to find where the problem is.

And just to be sure its ok, I set the auto midi channel of the OT to 16, Volca on 15, Minilogue on 9 and 1 to 8 is track of the OT

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MIDI OUT is the correct MIDI output for what you want to do, ie being able to play the Minilogue from both your controller and the OT.
If you use MIDI THRU, you’ll be able to control the ML only from your controller, not the OT.

For your external controller to actually activate the Minilogue, you have to be on OT MIDI page and select the MIDI track that controls the ML.
But the best way to test if OT signal is correctly sent to the ML is to set a few trigs on the OT MIDI track.

Don’t mess up with the Audio THRU track yet : just use the Mixer and set DIR to some value so that you can hear your inputs (the input led should blink, when sound is received).

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Sorry for the time since last answers but I waited for a Minitaur to test all that again.
Well It turns out that everything worked ok as I read in the manual and with your answers above.
But the midi track 1 that gave me trouble still not working for no reasons…
Anyway I just create a new project and tadaaaa
Thanks elektronauts for your answers and reactivity !
Cheers !

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Hi, I wonder if you could help me as I’m having exactly the same issue. How in the end did manage to get the octatrack to send midi to the minilogue xd?

I have OT - MIDI OUT to XD - MIDI IN. Both the XD and OT are set to channel 9. In the OT MIDI sync settings I have ‘transp’ and ‘clock’ set to send. I have a couple of trigs running on the OT sequencer but still no sound.

It’s breaking my heart : (

The topic starter said:

In your case:

That’s good. Have you checked that the MIDI cable is working?

On the OT, have you set this channel number in the MIDI sequencer track that you are using to sequence the MXD, or somewhere else? After you set the number, did you remember to press knob A or the [ENTER/YES] button to confirm the selection?

On the MXD, have you set the Global setting MIDI ROUTE to “USB+MIDI”?

If you are trying to send MIDI note messages from the OT to the MXD then these sync settings are irrelevant.

What values of VEL, and LEN have you set for these trigs?

How are you listening to the sound from the MXD?

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Hi !

Thanks @PeterHanes for your quick answer.
Actually its true I didn’t find a real solution here. The project where I had this problem never worked on midi track 1 with MLXD …
But, never had the problem again in an other project, I even send midi to a Moog Minitaur few days later with no issues.
I’m sure what I’m going to say was already wrote but just to be sure I always check that I have set the thru machine right with the midi track, I also check volumes and effects everywhere ( on both machines ) to be sure it’s “clean” and I change cables if it’s still not working.
Not a pro yet on elektron but yeah, I found a solution in create a whole new set and since, no problem so I’m sure we going to find something for you, controlling MNXD is real !

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It could be the midi cable as I’ve tried to link my Volca bass to the OT with no success. I’ll need to buy another cable to be sure.

I think I’ve set the channel correctly as it shows a no.9 on the OT OLED (the same channel on the XD). However, there does seem to be 2 places to set a channel on the OT. MIDI settings > SYNC and MIDI settings > CHANNEL.

The VAL and LEN were untouched so would be whatever is default.

I tried listening both out the OT and the XD.

The OT is also running through my audio interface via MAIN OUT. Not sure if that makes a diff.

Neither of those are the correct place to set the MIDI channel for sequencing an external instrument. You need to be in the NOTE SETUP page for the MIDI sequencer track; the quickest way to get there is to double press the Playback/Note button (if you have a MkI) or the SRC button (if you have a MkII). You should see fields for CHAN, BANK, SBNK, and PROG.

If you are sequencing the MXD, then the MXD’s sound will come out of the MXD, so you need to make sure that there is a path for the MXD’s sound to get to your ears.

MIDI note setup CHAN set to 9. Headphones in XD. Still no luck

I appreciate all your help.

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OK, let’s do some troubleshooting…

Are you using OT MkI or MkII?

Post a photo of your OT’s screen when the MIDI sequencer track you are using is selected.

When the trigs fire on the MIDI sequencer track, do you see a single pixel blink in the upper-left corner of the screen?

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MK2. Black square blinks to triangle when trig is trigged.

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OK. That should be OK. You could try increasing the value of LEN in case your MXD sound has a slow attack.

Next would be to try another MIDI cable as you mentioned previously.

On the MXD:

  • presumably it plays OK through your headphones when you play the keyboard?
  • ensure that it is in Play mode,
  • select a reasonable program (oscillators levels up, filter open, sensible envelopes, program level up, master volume up),
  • check whether the oscilloscope shows anything when the incoming Note messages arrive,
  • MIDI Route set to “USB+MIDI” instead of “USB”,
  • double-check the MIDI channel number.

You can always try using a different MIDI sequencer track on the OT, or even starting a new project just for testing.

If it doesn’t work after checking these things, then we can try something with your Volca Bass for comparison.

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OK. All checked bar the midi cable (I only have one). Still no luck.

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The cable is the prime suspect.

You can do a quick check of that by connecting the MIDI Out of either the OT or the MXD to the MIDI In of the VolcaBass, taking care to set the MIDI channel number on the VB, to see whether that set up works.

OK. No sound with Volca. If this turns out to be a MIDI cable problem then I sincerely apologise. Although, I did learn some things along the way. I’ll get a cable tomorrow and let you know how I get on. I’ll probs contact Korg as well.

Thanks for everything!

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What’s your Audio routing for these synths? can you get audio playing them directly? don’t rule out any of that either. it could be that your midi is fine and it’s a different problem all together.

So in the end it WAS the midi cable!!! Everything working now.

Mine heart hath been mended.

I appreciate you taking the time to help me out.

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