Totally forgot I had Dirt N Layers and I blame ya’ll for this purchase 
Edit: This can make some sick af Techno rumble kicks, thanks for changing my mind guys!
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Looks like more Cableguys gash.
Sure.
You are a.
I do think this might contribute to that. However, you can import your own samples, so you can still be creative…
So how does the workflow go exactly with aligning? Is it added like an effect to an existing track?
It’s an Effect, not an Instrument. Works like a charm as an insert. And, oddly enough, has many creative tricks up its sleeve. Mostly, SideChain routings are crazy creative with Space, Time and Modulation FXs.
And, of course, it delivers as a Snapback/Transient Designer module. Although it is important to note that if you already have a workflow for these duties, this might not be a must have.
It does have a color, the Cableguys UI is clear but it’s an acquired taste and it is fairly capable but not revolutionary.
I’m a big Cableguys user. Shaperbox is one of my fave mixing tool (and creative tool too, but mostly mixing tool). But CG plugins do have their quirks and sound.
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Looks like a cool plugin.
I’ve been out of the creative loop for a while so i’m afraid it would end up not being used.
Fair price though, the intro one at least.
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…xactly…
u drop that plugin on whatever u like that has at least some rhythmical content of any sorts, does NOT have to be the usual suspects like singleshot kiks or snares/claps/hats all on their own in first place, can be literally anything, even wholesome loops and realtime bus/group sums can be treated precisely via threshold settings, and there u go, adding and adjusting and finetuning all kinds of various transient AND tail flavours of ur liking to that…
with quick access to individual microtiming, individual loudness dynamic envelopes and individual dry wet ratios…
and on top of it all, it even translates fluently into naked midi information…
means, it extracts grooves…!!!
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…oooook…and since snapback is such a hot but also dead simple solution for a production technique that got so common and popular lately, sure enough polarity has another bitwig internal solution to cover it…
so for all bitwig users, this is great news…if u don’t wanna spent 30 to 50 bux to enjoy cableguys’ great and luxurious new helping hand tool…
here u go…
personally, no matter how geeeenious the freshest take on all daw concepts actually is and the fact that bitwig will rule the world some day for sure anyways, i’m all in on cableguys’ perfectly tailored and hypersmooth designed plugin to take care of all sorts of additional microlayering in the forthcoming sonic future…
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This is awesome. I was holding off on buying a trigger plugin to replace sounds with, but this can do that plus far more. Finally, super easy layering without any phase issues on kicks…love it.
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Anyone uses this with Ableton?
I’d like to know if this works:
Create a new track and add Snapback to this track. Route the audio of another track to this track (or use the sidechain function). Then freeze the track. If I’m correct. this will print the added audio of the plugin and remove the added latency, right?
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…afaik, ableton did their homework on overall latency compensation with their latest update…
if correct, u don’t need to freeze/bounce anything…
if not correct, any freeze/bounce audio file will be easy to be time corrected…
but i’m pretty confident, ableton is not the only big daw, where snapback can’t do it’s trick and it should be just fine…
I posted this someplace else but here’s my takeaways after making the dive in:
I checked this out and it definitely is fun on drums. It also adds attack to synth parts (or whatever crosses the threshold basically). In a lot of cases you have to play around with it or it just sounds like you clipped the transient. It’s also a tool you don’t print to track until you need to, as it plays with the audio latency of the project in a funny way. The sounds it adds before the drum hit transient make it necessary since it has to look ahead.
I usually record to an audio track in Live and assemble in Nuendo - recording the audio leaves a half beat before the track hits, which ends up causing the problem they claim to solve: needing to reposition your drums adding that sound that hits before the actual drum hit. Not a huge deal, just need to be aware this is a tool for the mix stage in my case.
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If Im understanding correctly, you are printing the audio from a drum machine (for example) and then adding snapback when you are ready to mix and are finished tracking, correct? If so, this is exactly how I plan to use it. It’s not something I’d use during the composing stage.
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Yeah that’s how I’ve been using it. Normally what I do is record things to audio tracks and then track them in a DAW on a timeline. So rather than use it during the first part I’ll just use it when I’ve already got the parts where I want them. I don’t think the intention of the effect is to be used live anyway, but heads up for folks that like to print their drums, don’t add SnapBack on there until it’s export time. (Try the demo you’ll see what I mean lol)
The sounds are great though, and being able to add your own adds that level of depth and control folks are looking for.
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…snapback needs to look ahead in time to do it’s thing…
since nothing can predict the future, pretty much all daws these days can pre delay their whole arrangements accordingly to let plugins that need to look ahead to work properly, like limiters and snapback for example…
whenever such plugins are in use, roundtrip latency needs to be added by the hosting daw, to give them a little head start…from that point on, latency problematic things get shaky…
u can’t record drummers, vocalists, guitars, external hardware or what not else anymore…
BUT…anything else is still pretty ok…
so u all can stop to worry…
all average production behaviour, apart from mentioned recording of real world stuff, will still work pretty much in REALTIME…if u drum or sing, anything beyond 20 milliseconds latency get’s tricky…but hitting the play button, twiddeling some parameters, working out some side chain processing, going crazey with endless fx chains, editing around in the piano roll, shuffeling clips and pieces around on timelines…all that stuff will never really bother u, even with 300 milliseconds of roundtrip latency in ur back…
so sanpback the hell out of everything as much as u want, on heaps of tracks at once…
just drop it as a standard fx on a track and let it do it’s thing…worst thing to happen at some point is a little sluggiish response whenever u hit play…
no need to freeze/bounce inbetween…
and if u wanna do it anyway, don’t bounce just in place, since naturally ur very first snap can’t come back to be still ahead of time…
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SnapOCTATRACKback !
Great plugin btw…if they get a rock solid stability on oscilloscope, it would be awesome…that is a must and great pro of Snapback, also actual listening to the result of transients overlapping and overall body of the sound
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I adore this plugin! I’m using it to spice up loops and one-shots every time I open Ableton Live. Genius.
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