Boycott Spotify

[alechko]

@pseudophysics

tldr: spotify is crap, but good when lazy

well, I have at least one use case where spotify is not crap, my SO is geriatric physical therapist, she does workshops for older folk trying to get them to move, she uses spotify to create playlists to play along when they are doing all of these “workouts”, they fucking love her for creating these playlists of old music that they’ve forgotten about, it makes them happy every single day.
she spends hours creating playlists at least couple for every week, not lazy at all I’d say, and I don’t see how other then streaming she can compile that much old music that would make these people happy they got out of bed that morning.

the company is terrible for living artists and the management is shit, but the app is convenient and doing it’s thing, I wish it was fair more toward artists, maybe someday management will change and they will be better…

[FilipNest]

Quick note that Tidal is great and I’ve not missed Spotify since switching years ago:

• pays 10% of your subscription to the artists you listen to most
• pays the most royalties per stream
• has high res streaming if that sort of thing matters to you
• has nice little things like links to allmusic for credits
• seems like it’s actually run for music by people who like music, not assholes who just want to earn enough money to buy Manchester United Arsenal Football Club.

Always think of this from one of my heroes:

Joanna Newsom: "Spotify Is the Banana of the Music Industry. It Just Gives Off...

[freebyrd]

@FilipNest

seems like it’s actually run for music by people who like music, not assholes who just want to earn enough money to buy Manchester United Football Club.

well… it’s majority-owned by square, which belongs to jack dorsey who founded twitter and is a weirdo bitcoin-cult billionaire now…

[FilipNest]

Ah! I got my clubs confused. Daniel Ek was trying to buy Arsenal. I hear every tech billionnaire wants one now.

[freebyrd]

i am not saying manchester united is owned by the guy, i am saying tidal is

[LyingDalai]

I totally agree with the title of this thread.

Always remember:

How to Discourse: tips and tricks

Spotify links First, and mainly, one can’t use a Spotify link without being registered. Besides, Spotify is not fair to artists. Spotify CEO Daniel Ek even exposed some controversial opinion on how artists should make music, and stated that “some artists that used to do well in the past may not do well in this future landscape, where you can’t record music once every three to four years and think that’s going to be enough”. Which, IMO, is both bloody insulting to musicians. And music as an a…

I enjoyed Benn Jordan’s insight/personal experience on this.

Spotify will fail

[Why Spotify Will Ultimately Fail] Some very good points

But also

Spotify: No more royalties < 1000 plays p/y

I’ve checked the small, mostly non-profit venues in my city where I usually go to concerts again. You’re right, they’re usually embedding Youtube videos and not Spotify. I don’t know if Google is that much better than Spotify. And I can’t listen to that on the go. So I’m usually looking up these artists on Spotify, download an album and listen to it in a trip or while cleaning, to see if I wanna go to the concert. If I liked the show, I will buy some merch and maybe an LP at the show and subscr…

Spotify is Apparently Creating Fake Artists

You beat me to it. But I want to say it like this: This is music by people who don’t care about musicians, for people who don’t care about music. From a creative viewpoint, it’s fine, I think. However, it’s still problematic for career musicians, in at least two ways: Spotify doesn’t pay per play in a precise manner. They pay more like an old collection agency. They distribute the money they have made available for payout such that if your songs haven’t hit some threshold, you wont actuall…

Now this new insulting comment by Elk.

⇒ Boycott Spotify

[Octagonist]

@freebyrd

edit: i’d consider switching to Tidal if it wasn’t owned by that other twitter idiot these days. they pay more to artists and have higher quality audio though.

You can also stream to Serato from Tidal for much less than the other supported streamers.

[Annihilation_Squares]

I’ve never understood why anybody used Spotify in the first place. Music is everywhere. No need to opt in to these kinds of shenanigans to hear the stuff.

[LyingDalai]

It’s the ubiquity of streaming, the endless/mindless streaming that appeals I guess.
I agree with you but since my wife got us Deezer I have to admit that it’s super handy.

But I keep on buying records and crazy experimental stuff on bandcamp. It’s precious to me.

[m0ld]

@Annihilation_Squares

I’ve never understood why anybody used Spotify in the first place.

Pure and simple: Convenience and ubiquity. For the price of one CD per month I got access to almost all the music I could dream of. When I was broke, it was the only way for me to get access to new music. Now it’s habit. I’ve used it since like 2011.

I will say, the value proposition Spotify offers has grown significantly less appealing recently. Constant price increases, licensing issues, and a lot of music that I have discovered in the past couple years just isn’t there.

[Jeanne]

@Blasted_pingin

Define “fair” when it comes to streaming.

“Fair” is still a word that stands for a lower value than “appropiate”, so …

[bwo]

I would say boycott using spotify and never promote your work in a way that leads to spotify, but if you are already paying for an uploading service there isn’t really a great reason to put in extra effort to make sure they don’t upload you to spotify.

Personally 90% of my listening in the car is from bandcamp these days, the app has actually become a nice way to que up a few albums and hit the road.

[Funch]

No need for me to boycott Spotify as I’ve never used that service.

I listen to the radio, my old CDs and vinyl and watch YouTube videos, mostly of older performances that are starting to show up such as Peter Gabriel era Genesis, PMG, Yes, and a bunch of jazz and jazz fusion.

[Monobear]

I also buy Vinyl and experimental stuff and do what I can to support local stuff.
But some new Vinyl starts to hit the 40-50 bucks.
I apreciate a nice edition but it‘s becoming a little bit pricey.
But I also have Apple Music which I also use to check out whats new.

[MichaalHell]

Just the fact that you need a leech like Distrokid to upload music to any of these streaming services is enough to deterrent me from ever putting my music up on them…

Bandcamp 4 lyfe

[m0ld]

Yeah, I didn’t put my last album on Spotify for that exact reason, and when my distrokid for this year expires I won’t be renewing. Nobody listens to my music on streaming anyway so it’s a waste of money.

[DJCHEMIE]

I don’t think I have anything against Spotify but I don’t use it. I personally dont like curated music for me as i have ZERO belief that it’s natural. We had a family membership or something like that but we both decided to cancel it after sometime as I wasn’t using it already.

I listen to music on SoundCloud and only listen to people I want to listen. Most of my time, I listen to one artist’s full discography until I get sick of it. Or I listen to certain DJ mixes, sometimes over and over again.

[Kegeratorz]

Never used Spotify, didn’t know it existed until I came here. Apple Music for the win! Play one song I like and it’ll continue to play similar songs into the night! No CDs, Cassettes and vinyl to worry about storing. Just my phone and a Bluetooth speaker! It’s awesome!

[LyingDalai]

@Kegeratorz

awesome

Until you check how much artists get paid, that is.

[Kegeratorz]

Not insensitive to anyone’s plight but I highly doubt those artist care how much I get paid for my boring job!