The trilogy may be completed, after the Crave (Moog32) and Edge (DFAM) …now Spice (SubH)
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what no way is this real?
Apparently, yes. On their FB page.
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A post was merged into an existing topic: Behringer EDGE : semi-modular percussion synth
moved here in error … oops
Hmm, so other than USB (audio and midi over this would be welcome), layout and the price tag, there are no differences. Subharmonicon is one of my all time faves, and I will continue to support Moog’s innovation over this. But it is a shame they don’t add more to this rather than providing near enough the exact same features. There are more than a few things that could, erm, spice this up. An XOR mode button off the top of my head, but also more parameters in the patchbay would be most welcome. So it’s a miss for me. It’s also ugly!
Edit: midi in/out on 5-pin sockets is new, I guess.
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Without getting into my feelings on Behringer, I do hate that they call this an “affordable version” of the Subharmonicon.
Obviously things like that are relative, but the Moog version is hardly unaffordable in the same way you could argue an original Minimoog is.
Just call it what it is: a cheap clone. 
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For the avoidance of any further doubt, there are a plethora of Behringer ‘opinion’ topics. It’s a total pita trying to deal with these announcements constantly being derailed by the same ‘reaction’ comments. This would be fine if it wasn’t starting a fire every time, but it is … search for the Behringer business model or ethics topics and vent freely there, let it all out, for anyone interested in following the release it’s a pita too. Critical opinions on the specific item are fair game, but let’s just get over the fact that this is even happening and offending anyone within these separate topics.
Dealing with flags and reactions to reactions all day every time something like this happens gets old pretty fast … so if posts like this appear they are now potentially heading to the bin if you don’t have anything constructive to say or don’t put the feedback into the correct places. Your indignation or contempt or whatever can be written in a few of the catchall topics that are there for you to express yourself freely, please allow the others to enjoy the specifics of the respective items at hand …
yhbw - this is no joke, it’s a massive hassle sweeping up this avoidable mess
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This one will be hard to ignore…I have a DFAM (in my Eurorack) and always fancied playing with the SubH but it was too expensive for me with a fairly limited use case …at this price pint I would buy it just to experiment. Looks to have better midi as well…that said, I don t expect to see this in shops for at least a year, thinks are promised a long time before they are released!
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Looks fun, I’d like to make music it.
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Wasn’t there a specific thread for unreleased Behringer gear to minimise their pebbledashing of the forum with threads on a million new products that haven’t actually been released yet?
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Yes there is, at the behest of people with no interest in the items. However, as is teh case, people WILL post new topics time and again at announcements/release etc. This appeared in no less than three topics, i could have merged them all, but then the next person coming to post would observe a gap and post again - the topic is marked for in progress and with @Jukka’s nod it may be put back in there, but that topic is an adminstrative mess. There is no reason why these items can’t have their own thread imho, especially if they are destined to come anyway.
If this topic is merged it will be better done in a few days when the news is old enough such that it isn’t prompting new threads to appear. This is why in progress was added to the title (plus to remove the “clone”(an accidental dog-whistle) term)
The time to market may have seemed sooner on first glance, so it might be one of those next year things, it’s only one topic of thousands a month. Anyone bothered can mute the topic within seconds of seeing it in any case.
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The people who are interested in Behringer gear have multiple threads where they can discuss it (and as you rightly say, trying to merge them all into one won’t work).
But it seems the people who want to complain/rant about Behringer have nowhere to do it here. They are told not to do it in threads like this or like the memes thread, because that derails the thread. They’re told to just mute threads they don’t like. But it’s also true that that doesn’t work.
Should there be a Bewhinger thread? Is that the Clone War thread? Because that one turns into back and forth arguments too, because some pro-B people (who already have several threads to post about B in) don’t like some of the anti-B posts there.
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That’s an obtuse perspective on those threads, if you want to berate Behringer that’s the place indeed (and there are others), expect criticism from those who disagree though - we’re not creating safe spaces to share your contempt, just a clear divide between every freqing Behringer topic and this tedious old debate which gets nowhere
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Yep! We know where everyone stands. Both sides are right. It should be left there!
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I’m not asking for that, just observing that shutting down all anti-B talk in threads about their products doesn’t work.
just a clear divide between every freqing Behringer topic and this tedious old debate which gets nowhere
Yup, I just wanted to know where the other side of the divide actually is, i.e. where those views are allowed and are on-topic.
I’ve bumped The Clone War - Behringer. Good or Bad? - #927 by PofM to the top as a reminder it exists.
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Technically the original has MIDI, it just uses a dongle.
After having had my hands on one, I’m not even sure a $200 SUBH is worth the cost and space (and it isn’t large!).
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So what are the innovations that fit with a Subharmonicon type synth ? ( Beyond cost reduction. )
I know the SubH gets pulled in lots of interesting directions by clever users, Perhaps that’s a way to make improvements. Are there other semi-modular connections missing ?
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