I think you are basically right about this. Plus no innovation.
replicating discontinued products doesnāt bother me, I see it as a resurrection of sorts. and if anyone deserves to be trolled itās modern Roland. Creator of my all time favorite synths (Iāve an original 202 on the way as I type), oh how I loved thee Roland. theyāre now a shadow of their former self. boutique me bolix.
I do find it interesting that most people have been calling out for analog reproductions of classics and all Roland have done is spit out tiny digital emulations(aside from the amazing system 500), now here we have a company whose main man listens to the people on forums and is giving people exactly what they want at a very affordable price⦠donāt see what there is to complain about
Itās all about variety I think itās cool that Behringer is putting affordable stuff out there thatās actually analog
Theyāre kind of proving that itās not that big of a deal to just do it!
Ok, take a look at the minimoog clone, does the housing look familiar? Looks like the Moog m32 housing to me, the m32 is a current product, and remember all the other designs in the past they ripped off, like the mackie and electro harmonix stuff for example. Buying an off the shelf product from a company who went to the expense and effort of designing it, including all the associated costs involved, and reverse engineering it and putting it into production is a shitty thing to do, but then also copying the physical look, shitty.
I hope Roland and Moog sue them.
Behringer Octatrack 2 about to drop
Elektron couldnāt make it, so Uli to the rescue
$299. Seems fair
Well it is much less of a deal if you can simply steal other peoples work.
Personally Iām much more annoyed at Rolandās substandard latest offerings than I am at Behringer
I do get that it is kind of lame blatantly ripping off designs
But letās face it that happens in every facet of consumer electronics. I just so happen to think itās OK for it to happen in the synth realm too
The consumer gets to choose
The problem isnāt the products its the shady practices, essentially they are cashing in on other peoples work, which does not sit with me at all.
If you think that people were not cloning other manufacturers synth designs from day one then I have a Behringer priced bridge to sell you.
Edit: bridge might be a bit wobbly.
Alright no model d cloneā¦just a dominion club instead to feed my original old school sound collection.
Plus Moog itself is a good company when it comes to taking care of their employees. So to take their reissue sales away would take away the private equity their employees have.
mmm thatās funnyā¦Donāt remember seeing you on the Roland SE-02 thread blasting Roland for cashing in on the Moog Model D
Probably because the SE-02 isnāt a minimoog clone, is it? Sure the topology might be similar, but then many synths share that topology, however had they just re-engineered the minimoog, copied the m32 housing and stuck a Roland badge on it then they would deserve to be criticised, but they didnāt and Behringer did.
ummmā¦ok
Do some research on the SE-02
If you are going to crack the moral whip, best to do it without double standards
Iām simply stating the SE-02 adds things like sequencer, patch memories and has a different filter to the minimoog.
What synth do you look forward to?
Well Iāve just ordered a Peak, but not even 100% sure on that, but it seems the most interesting thing at the moment.
Hopefully the Quantum will be a reality and not just another fantasy from Waldorf
Still waiting for a Virus TI3 or Nord G3 but those ships have sailed it seems.
Only interested in new innovative gear that offers something different to the table we havenāt really seen before.
Probably have to get back into modular, as thatās where the real innovation is these days.
The reissue was already discontinued by moog. Not a single boog D has been shipped yet.
Using inventions and tech other companies and people made happens everyday. It is a very good thing. Itās how technology moves forward. Take the basic design from the Model D, build upon it, add whatever tech, make it a new and unique synth. Like the SE-02.
Or you could be like Uli Behringer, sitting in his big Manila office not giving a shit. The thing with him dropping by gearslutz by the way, along with the DM12 announcement, was a calculated move set in stone to generate numbers (not only $ numbers). That man is cold and calculated.
Thereās imitation and thereās plagiarism.