I didn’t say they were cheap, I was speculating that they must be able to get jacks, faders, and dacs for very cheap because things like multiple outputs and individual level controls are typically where manufacturers cut costs and yet this has 16 outs and 32 faders and is very inexpensive.
I just thought was kind of a weird design choice because you’re either going to use the faders (basically a built-in mixer) or the outputs with an external mixer so you don’t really need both.
Nope I’ve used samples of the LM1 though which is the more desirable one imo.
I bought literally like 10 of these from the walmart website when they were on sale. I initially bought like 3 of them at $10 each and then went back and they had been reduced to $5 so I bought 6 or 7 more on impulse.
I actually end up using them all the time because it’s so much harder for me to sit at the desk than it is on the couch and if you can find a deal like I did, this is the kind of thing that will help you use an end of the line mixer with less channels if you’re serious about routing all voices individually.
Summing together 4 voices into one out with a mini powered mixer which has independent levels becomes a huge advantage, especially if you’re short on inputs farther down the line or if you want to process multiple voices through a single effect.
Biggest disadvantage is all of the (included) power supplies
Probably not since Cioks outputs 6w per outlet and these use 12v 1amp supplies which are equivalent to 12 watts each.
Cioks makes a nice product though! Definitely higher quality than the mixers, but they perform well for the “scattered around the house” tasks.
Theoretically though, if you find a multi-spot type brick supply that can output 1amp at 12 volts per socket, then you could totally route them all into one unit like that. It’s just finding something with the specs to match the ambition
If you’ve got access to an ammeter or bench PSU with a built in ammeter it might me worth checking the actual current draw… 1A seems a fair old chunk for a little line mixer like that. I’ve no doubt they ship with a 1A PSU (maybe for belt and braces, maybe a cost thing if the manufacturer can source them in bulk?) but a bit of measurement won’t hurt.
Certainly a possibility, but I tried to run two of them with a daisy chain cable off of the same (included) power supply and no dice, couldn’t get either of them to power on with the draw of both so 6 watts isn’t going to cut it. Like I said though, if you found a multi-spot type unit with a better per outlet max you could probably swing it.
They also make a number of these that are 5v however they utilize a micro USB power supply and I don’t have many good experiences I can put in the same bag with USB power so in a sense, even if it’s overpowered, I think a 12V dc in jack is preferable for a powered mixer of any kind.
It’s pretty powerful for what it is I guess, I can plug a guitar with passive pickups into one of the inputs and get signal straight into headphones at the output, so it’s an amp as much as it is a mixer. When I opened them up there’s an opamp per input and then one on the output as well so like 5 total opamps in the unit.
I have to say, even with the extra power strip space required, these things are extremely handy to have around and I don’t notice any added noise or coloration of the sound to a degree that I care about. Really useful to have one or two in a drawer if nothing else.
That makes more sense if it’s amplifying too, I was assuming it would just be a buffered attenuator! You’re right about the 12v supply tho… more headroom (again assuming they’re running the op amps from +/- 6v)
Ironically, I think they sold the same unit (or very close to the same unit) under a variety of brands including one by Behringer that is the spitting image including the “micro mix” logo font.
The one that I bought was called “Abody” although it doesn’t say that anywhere on the, eh… body, and I can’t seem to find an output rating anywhere in the packaging.
The sales ad said this but who knows if it’s accurate:
Specifications:
Material: metal + electronic components
Color: black
Power Adapter: input–100-240V, output–12V/1A
Interface: 1/-inch TS connector
Input Impedance: min. 4.7kΩ
Max Input Level: +16 dBu
Output Impedance: approx. 80Ω
Max Output Level: +16 dBu
Well, Sweetwater went from “expected soon” to estimated availability June 2025 for LMDrum, so either the pre-order exceeded the stock in transit, or maybe the January estimates were incorrect. Probably the former.
Also noticed on Alto music it only comes up if you search it by name, it no longer comes up under the general heading of Behringer so there as well, I guess. No date displayed.
Yeah, also I see that Gear4music is showing estimates of Jan 10-14 so I’m not sure how much I believe any of these dates since none of them seem to have it in hand yet. Sweetwater does seem to have taken a more realistic (or less optimistic) stance on availability though.
Alto music pre-order page now comes up with the google search (again) but no dates provided. Alto received the MS-1 MkII a couple of months before sweetwater, and that was earlier this year. They also run the Reverb “Behringer b-stock outlet” store, so I assume they have some priority with B as far as shipping order but I really have no idea who will have it and when.
We need that interactive map, with a little dot showing up somewhere in the Indian Ocean, and a message from the captain of the ship, “We’re experiencing some rough weather, and had to kill a few pirates, but we battle on. Hold on, your LM Drum is on the way.”
Pirates in the Straits of Malacca
I’m serious about this. Behringer certainly has this data, its something that would add to our experience of waiting for their new products, that helps us understand the wait, just like with the package carriers.
I don’t know about LM1 or LM2 but the LM9000 had a sampling function, so it’s possible that the integrated sample recorder’s circuitry design is borrowed from the 9000.
Just speculation of course, but if those Linn drum machines are all internally similar it would have simplified the design process and left them mostly just with designing a UI for the sampler and figuring out a memory allocation for it (it still seems pretty low).
