Does anyone know if I pre-order from Anderton’s at £159 whether that is a firm price or whether that can go up once they’re in stock?
i would be amazed if the pre-order payment could change (that’d be bad form), but i guess teh price may go either way before they are on shelves - i don’t know if they’ll be too receptive to adjusting their pre-order price if the price drops come time they are on shelves
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Thanks, if they go below £159 I would just have to live with that. £159 seems good to me so I’m tempted for sure.
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No knock on @colectivo_triangular i enjoy their demos a lot.
The most general demos of DFAM are basically industrial techno and i didnt quiet get that from the Edge demo…
So What i was really saying is that it might be @colectivo_triangular more nuanced and detailed approach to the Edge that makes it not sound like a DFAM rather then Edge not sounding like a DFAM.
This demo proves that it sounds good and has a broad palette. I guess a real match up between Edge and DFAM is needed to really see how close they are sonically.
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great device for great price in my opinion
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Not for me though.
My recent experiences with B gear havent been great.
The Pro-1, felt very flimsy, and had a loose output jack.
TD3-MO, just sounds bad, incredible the difference next to my MB-33.
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There‘s a new demo by that Bonedo channel. Doesn’t sound good imo.
This? Behringer Edge Sound Demo (no talking) - YouTube
I hear lots of clicks and nasty rows of clicks in some parts and other very unpleasant things. As far as I remember, the DFAM was incapable of producing clicks and never sounded unpleasant in /this/ way (though it could sound extremaly harsh). Weird!
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uh oh, these demos sound great and the pink looks sick. maybe a bit scratchier than the dfam but easily good enough that a purchase is now a sure thing for me and it looks beautifully ‘performable’. tbh i would prefer to support moog, but the dfam is a bit beyond my budget for a pony with so few tricks and no midi.
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I actually think that sounds good… To me, I don’t care about performance, I just want to hear the sweet spots, even if they keep moving the setting past where I would have left it. As I just added DFAM, I also want to know it doesn’t sound the same 
This is an amazing price and a wide range of sounds for a fairly simply box.
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May as well link this here (if not above)
A bit more balance back on the device’s colour which some of the thumbnails above don’t do justice to
I wasn’t averse to it at launch, but this feels like a more natural lighting, less shouty and more Boss BF in hue, I like it, it’s a better partner to their wood cheeks than the orange crave is
It may be my screen but the knob-caps look like they have a heavier marker line on them, itself a good thing but a shame to have it look odd next to a crave
the demo isn’t selling to the ears, but perhaps the eyes
i like the moog idea this appropriates LSB, 8 steps is plenty, but the video with the excessive wave-reset? does create a question about how suited the core oscillator was for this - the hard sync on teh neutron is not supposedly implemented too well, this may be one of those things where fitting the template to the hardware isn’t clever as letting the hardware potential drive the template/config
may wait on an expose video on this aspect of it, i am cool with clicks, but if it hamstrings a whole facet of teh palette of sounds it could get grating fast
that said, it clearly has a lot of potential as is - determining its utility to you depends if you can deal with artefacts like that (whilst not getting hung up on whether it is a bad copy)
folk should be aware these buttons are clicky as f–k, at least there’s only a couple this time
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and @MichaalHell
I hope that you’ll forgive me for being lazy and just copying my comment from the video here. But as you both brought up the DFAM comparison (which actually is quite obvious, but only at first sight. I believed that first, too and would still do so if I hadn’t tried both.) Sound-wise both are quite different. Which is a good thing, imo.
“My 2 cents: With the Edge, Behringer has brought a solid drum synthesizer onto the market that invites experimentation but also covers standards without any problems. Even if the basic sound is a bit more HiFi and rich in overtones, the Edge is still perfectly suited for dark industrial techno tracks or more complex IDM and ambient percussion.
As there are a lot of parallels in their layout and interface: In direct comparison with a DFAM, the Edge doesn’t sound quite as organic, mainly due to the Moog DFAM’s oscillators and filter. And that’s a good thing, because both drum synths complement each other perfectly in terms of sound. At this price, you definitely can’t go wrong here. In other words: EDGE is not a DFAM and vice versa.”
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A thought towards a person with experience of this
Is there any sense here that there is an aspect of its implementation the speaks to it not being built around what it is best at doing but rather built around doing a specific feature set.
I haven’t drilled down on the bonobo video, but after a quick review there was a conspicuous aspect of the sound touched on above wrt clicking excessively
Does it seem like it’s out of place (even if you had never known or heard a dfam) or was that video highlighting a specific unflattering corner of its overall potential
I have no concern if it sounds like a dfam, but rather if it sounds like it wasn’t probably meant to (but now does by striving to copy something on the cheap) … I have no concerns with the crave, it’s good sounding whether like M32 or not, it’s an inviting feature set, as here and isbat least affordable (or more justifiable)
Interesting how the Behringer video sounds completely different. I also wonder if the Bonedo video is the old video that was quickly taken down last year. Btw., 235 Euros on Thomann.
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Looking at the other YouTube videos on a better screen I think maybe some of those artefacts come from envelope related behaviours, those may be digital and possible to tidy up (as happened with pro1)
Seems capable in any case
Anyone aware if they both always run through the 8steps, you can’t let it loop at 6? Or is this where the advance clock input comes into play? Not done the research
Edit, cooling a bit here having heard a dfam demo do some more west coast vibe sounds with it, the simplistic feature set means it’s more important that the core is strong and has a something to it
Plus in both I wonder if I’d look at the panel and wonder where a per step random or jitter above settings was… they both need such a utility outlet onboard, but the dfam has enough about its sound to reduce the need for tools to create the interest
Some aspects might be recoverable with cabling, but onboard flexibility might have been a nice differentiation here. Still curious but not price monitoring for a reason to jump in
Some things I heard within the limbic bits vid really talk to me, but the hit ratio with the various sound designs was a bit low to tell me it’s all sweet spot central
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Actually, I did the demo for Bonedo, too. The unit is even the same. The main difference is maybe the usage of the “highpass” filter that’s shown there more often. Maybe that’s what sounds strange to you?
Unfortunately, 8 steps are the default. As long as you don’t use an external retrigger, you can’t get shorter loops.
To get these kinds of features, I’d recommend using external modules or even a crave as a counter part.
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This probably uses the Behringer / Cool Audio 3340 VCO chips rather than the discrete oscillators in the DFAM. I’m not suggesting one is better than the other, but it would lead to some sonic differences.
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i thought the hands looked similar !
i am a bit cooler on the immediacy of my interest on this one
Judging from the demos it sounds a bit different but quite close to the dfam. For the price it’s a very good alternative.
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i think that the textures i was hearing and thinking were wave reset do seem to be that, at least in Starsky Carr’s video, the quality of that sync isn’t especially attractive sounding
but for anyone wondering what i presumed you might have been referencing, this is the start of that section (handily bypassing the opening ‘humorous’ intro)
as far as i can tell so far, and a bit contrary to expectation this tutorial type video is illuminating more of the possibilities
i also think that variety to the 8 paradigm can nicely be interrupted by alternately sending a click to the trigger or advance inputs so the progression through the 8 need not be linear, not sure but it appears advance doesn’t play a step, so you can shorten the 8 as well as repeat steps within the 8 for variety assuming one can direct clock pulses on demand to either of those inputs
its focus is making me see the appeal again, but i’m still going to wait it out
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