Me too! A very low-mileage well-maintained Toyota sedan with many years of life left. Amazing to think a phone can cost more.
Ha! Totally agree. I probably would pick one up if it wasn’t for the hideous color/pattern on front. Would love that greyscale company to make an alternate face for it.
Yeah, I’ve got a Neutron, and it sounds cool, but a different colour would have been just great.
Thanks for pointing that out. There’s been much spin on this. It was an engineering solution applied to issues around a product & they walked right into a PR beat-up.
I feel you have a heart in right place. Keep on asking questions. And dont mind if ppl here question your way of thinking. We are musicians (except if we are engireers like me) and we have our own way of facing the darkness.
same here 
I have recommended it in the past and some do go that route. Most people end up getting a new phone because I think they just really start wanting the newest and greatest. Kind of like some of us with music gear. 
It was a low mileage Toyota Corolla for me, hah! Love Toyotas.
Well i did not buy cheap gear to replace it with something new. I mostly hang on to things for a very long time, and i am old enough that i know that old electronic devices are replaced with new standards. Still the retro vibe of something like an N64 doesnt escape civilization.
I also belive with electronic instruments, its somewhat similar you get sometimes even more with old devices - if i see the “old” MPC2500 with its 10 output , 4x midi , hard disc" it makes me sad about the MPC live. I had a Waldorf Micro Q, it had 16 Voices, could layer 4 voices, and each voice was like 3 Oscilators, Wavetable, FX, multiple outputs. Such great functionality and very good sound.
I am an electronic engineer myself, and i am sad that the product life cycle is so short (especially for mobile phones.), and causes so much waste. I think its cool to build new functionality and improve things but it would be cool if its serviceable so one dont has to thrash a unit because of a broken IC or condensator.
Maybe a device is a little larger when there is a socket for an IC - but at least it isnt broken when the IC is defect. If a CPU is socketable, then every other IC is also possible as socket. I think it would be cheaper and greener if the product life cycle would be treated from a customer perspective. Organizations also have a responsibility that should have more to it than greenwashing their brand. Maybe the PCB is split in parts, so if it fails doesnt have to be replaced completly.
I think elektron having included a test routine included on their instruments, is already forward thinking, and that should be standard for all manufactures- maybe even a standardized test chip - that checks a device, and signals the user, what is wrong with their electronic device. Something like a bios , but more capable.
Don’t know if it’s true or not but I have heard if you sell any second hand car in Japan you have to put brand new tyres on it regardless of the age of the car or the tyres.
Must be doing wonders for good old planet earth
Highly doubt its true, lived there during my childhood and never heard of anything like that.
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I find the discussion regarding planned obsolescence quite interesting.
When I started there were monophonic synths, then came polyphonic synths, then came polyphonic synths with patch memory, then came polyphonic, multitimbral synths with patch memory and stereo FX, and then we had polyphonic, multitimbral synths with patch memory, multiple stereo FX, built in sequencer and sampling capabilities.
Now people are again buying monophonic synths. Maybe the consumer is as much responsible for planned obsolescence as the provider.
As an aside, my mobile phone is 20 years old and I have never changed the battery.