Beginner dumdum questions

Elektron Gear Octatrack
#1

I’m going from Model:Samples to Octatrack and am having some confusion. This is a really simple matter, but I can’t seem to find it in the manual, the merlin guide or videos…

In Model Samples if I want to shorten the length of a sample on one specific trig, I just hold the trig and then go through the regular process of shortening the sample length.

On Octatrack, if I do this (by going into the trim menu) it just changes the length of the sample on the whole track… what am I doing wrong? I see a control for sample start on the main track page, but not the end point so i can’t just tweak it with the knobs.

I know the answer is right in front of me, but I just don’t see it. Thanks

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#2

Leave the sample at full length. Use hold and release (on Amp page). Take hold right down and release at a low number to avoid a click.

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#3

PLock the LEN parameter to shorten the sample for a specific trig.

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#4

Other methods are possible - it’s the OT after all - but this is my usual approach to shortening one instance

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#5

For this you have to switch length on in playback setup first. It’s a coarser control and won’t control the release

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#6

Yep. Amp Hold (values in steps) and Release seems more appropriate.

Imho LEN is more useful with looped samples (LEN=Time mode) or with sliced samples (LEN=Slice mode, number of slices played)
…

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#7

ah, i was just going to say “this was the first thing i tried but…” now it makes sense!

thanks!

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#8

ah good to know, well it’s good for me to familiarize myself with both methods to use when appropriate, thank you for the info to all!

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#10

ok, now another dumdum question - i know you can swing individual trigs as a parameter lock by turning a knob and moving the trig varying degress off grid, because I did it earlier… but I can’t remember where the control is!

I know you can select which notes to swing in the track by doing FUNC + BANK but i know i also did it as a parameter lock as well, but can’t remember how…

EDIT - NEVERMIND FOUND IT: for future readers, you hold the trig and push the right and left arrows.

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#11

Also there’s dedicated swing trigs in the trig edit menu. If you hit function + edit on mki or the dedicated function shortcut on the mkii. This allows you to set swing level per track as well as what trigs are swung. Standard 1/8th notes are on as default but you can swap those or set sections that are “unswung” the possibilities get pretty wild pretty quickly.

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#12

How ia can delete project? Cant find in manual

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#14

Ah @Kpucski bravo !
I thought about File Manager, but this is a non obvious (to me) contextual menu I never think of (read about it concerning renaming).
I promised myself to read the manual entirely in a linear way! (consulted it a million times with search).

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#15

I did that once :innocent:

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#16

How old were you? :pl:

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#17

Thanks a lot!

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#18

haha i decided i would read the manual from front to back and gave up after a few pages, it’s incomprehensible to me unless I already have used the functions i’m reading about at least once… and I at least have some knowledge from knowing model samples and cycles reasonably well and having read their manuals!

NEW QUESTION:

in model samples i can raise and lower individual trig notes in parameter locks from C to any other note (these are relative values, because C might not actually be a concert C). alternately i can raise or lower the pitch numbered in semitones via a different knob.

in Octatrack there is the Pitch option, which in Keyboard mode is divided into semitones and which i access by turning the left top knob in AMP page, but is there any option where you can change notes based on note letters instead of numbered semitones?

#19

Audio pages= No.
Midi pages = Yes.

(The manual will tell you the same :wink: )

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#20

thanks - yes i saw that you can do it for midi pages, but i don’t understand why it’s available for midi but not for samples? (and i was hoping it would be somehow a hidden or new feature for samples)

#21

Because it isnt. Thats just the way it is. Same as the compressor, loads of people complain about the values not relating to function in the usual compressor-speak terms.

But they just dont.

Yeah, you can play samples chromatically for melodies on the OT. Its just not very good at it. 2 octave range? No secondary fine tune knob? A rate knob that only goes down? OT is killer at lots of things, just not this. In my opinion.

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