Bandcamp laid off about half of company staff

Bandcamp’s “current financials” are a direct result of Epic buying a thing it didn’t need or know how to run and then, predictably, running it into the ground. Bandcamp was doing just fine before Epic came along

" Which brings us to another question: Why would Epic want to absorb a platform whose entire identity is built around independence? For a few reasons. The biggest is that Bandcamp is the exact product Epic has been trying to build since launching the Epic Games Store in 2018—a widely adopted, creator-friendly retail platform with a fervent user base and vast reserves of goodwill. The Epic Games Store has struggled to compete with more established marketplaces run by Sony, Microsoft, and fellow developer-turned-platform Valve, whose Steam Store represents the gold standard of digital retail in PC gaming. The store has also been plagued by clunky digital rights management and a buggy interface, and their tactic of luring developers with exclusive deals has largely backfired, garnering ill will and accusations of bribery from gamers. Bandcamp, with its ease of use and patina of goodwill, is everything the Epic Games Store is not.

Epic is also one of the major players in the early iterations of the metaverse, a broad concept that for now refers to virtual spaces in which users interact with each other: playing games, telling stories, watching concerts—and, most importantly, buying things. Epic has already hosted virtual shows and screenings through its Fortnite platform, and regularly licenses music from artists for events and promotions. Acquiring Bandcamp’s platform gives them direct access to those artists, and potentially a frictionless way to license music for their metaverse properties.

As far as tech overlords go, you could do much worse than an acquisition by Epic, whose founder seems to espouse the same principles that came to define Bandcamp. For all its flaws, the Epic Games Store takes only 12 percent commission from developers. And Sweeney has been vocal about the monopolistic practices of Apple and Google’s software marketplaces, which, he argues, offer minimal services for their 30 percent commission, stifle competition, and consolidate too much power with the two companies that dominate the mobile software market. When Epic tried to skirt Apple’s rules requiring all in-app payments to be routed through their own payments system, Apple booted Fortnite from the App Store and threatened to terminate Epic’s developer accounts. Epic sued, and while the judge ruled in favor of Apple on nine of 10 counts, determining it was not a monopoly, they also found that Apple had violated California’s unfair competition law by preventing developers from informing users of other payment systems within their apps.

Beyond the lawsuits, Epic’s willingness to challenge the big boys has benefited everyone. Since the Epic Games Store opened, the rival Steam Store has lowered their commission, and a few months after the Epic suit was filed, Apple announced it would accept applications from developers making $1 million or less to be considered for a lower commission rate."

UPDATE: turns out you could actually do worse than having Epic as your corporate overlord

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I don’t know anything anyone else here doesn’t, but if true, why would they have participated in this acquisition? Just too much money to turn down?

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I think that was about the CPO! I keep a safe distance from marketeers :joy:

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getting to where i’m just gonna pay for a wetransfer account and put all my releases there. put a txt file in the folder with each release with “pay what you want” info and copyright boiler plate.

put links in the linktree and call it a day.

No because of:

Since our founding in 2008, we’ve been motivated by the pursuit of our mission, which is to help spread the healing power of music by building a community where artists thrive through the direct support of their fans. That simple idea has worked well, with payments to artists and labels closing in on $1 billion USD. And while over the years we’ve heard from other companies who wanted us to join them, we’ve always felt that doing so would only be exciting if they strongly believed in our mission, were aligned with our values, and not only wanted to see Bandcamp continue, but also wanted to provide the resources to bring a lot more benefit to the artists, labels, and fans who use the site. Epic ticks all those boxes. We share a vision of building the most open, artist-friendly ecosystem in the world, and together we’ll be able to create even more opportunities for artists to be compensated fairly for their work.

Oh wait, that was early 2022 when Epic “ticked all the boxes” and we still should believe they joined forces because of a “common vision for the most open artist friendly ecosystem in the world”.

2023: Yes it was all about the :moneybag:. it always is.

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I think most peoples work is actually more protected as long as your country of residence is part of the Rome convention (USA is not), even if they are a lot weaker than 10 years ago also in the EU.

Funny (or sad) that the big legislation thing a few years back (article 13) that was supposed to benefit the musicians ended up being so watered down that it actually made individuals less protected as rights holders.

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A decentralized, protocol based alternative:
Nina

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So long story short, Epic bought Band Camp, lost their big fight with Apple, had to stem the bleeding, sold off Band Camp to whoever the fuck, and now here we are?

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A mass exit will not protect the ones remaining with jobs.
Who would we blame then?

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If I’m reading their FAQ correctly, a solana wallet is required to pay transaction fees for publishing a release?

I could be misunderstanding this entirely.

I know you can purchase tracks with an email address and a credit card, a wallet is not required. I’m not sure if that’s true for publishing though. If that isn’t an option now that doesn’t mean it won’t be in the future, they are very actively developing it. Very approachable on their Discord channel.

All about the scrilla. I’m surprised BC lasted this long. Great run. Sad day.

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A crypto wallet is even an option? Ffs…

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Wtf is a solana wallet? [rhetorical]

I really hope they don’t shit the bed with everything and fuck us all with fees.

Gonna get a www and a tip jar.

I don’t see how that’s the customers fault or artists fault. If a new owner breaks the site beyond standards of those who use it it’s not on us to bear the load. The company fixes the broken shit or people leave. It’s like asking someone to drive/buy an exploding car so autoworkers keep their jobs.

“Might blow up taking the kids to school but that’s the price to pay for not feeling guilty about someone losing their job installing trunk lids”

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the crypto sphere really bastardized the term “decentralized”. true decentralization is free from any service.

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This was how I felt.

I might not be right in my feelings, but the instant I hear blockchain or crypto it raises my heckles.

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When odd becomes shitty.

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Grandpa was right!

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Yep. It pretty much guarantees I won’t use a product or service. Too much BS adjacent to crypto.

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