Audacity & Audio Editors

Audiofinder seemed ok , there’s a demo , it can edit , process and tag

Or the adobe thing , which I quite liked as you could enter a tempo and edit on the grid for accurate loops.

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I’ll look further into that as it’s a hybrid of the functionality I’ve lost and also tightly integrated with osx - can’t complain on the price front

Have a look at Resonic (Pro) really cool initiative for this purpose.
Quick audio browser (scrolling samples e.g.)
VST support
Analyser
Library
I switched from Audacity to this product.

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Might want to ask @Ess what he used when he was creating the DT factory content. I imagine he needed some serious automation and other functions when he embarked on that project, so he might have some ideas for you.

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I noticed when searching before posting this topic that Simon had been using Audacity back in 2015 whilst possibly on duty with Elektron, can’t be too bad as one assumes they could pick up some licences for a paid editor if deemed necessary.

I think it’s probably the dated awkward screen design that’s putting me off a bit

seems to be Windows only afaict - looked good though

I didn’t do that much automation actually, just one little bash script with ffmpeg or SoX (can’t remember which…) that would trim the samples of silence. However, none of the tools I found that were readily available could trim as close as I wanted for some reason. I had to trim them manually afterwards anyway, but it did help the process a lot.

I actually work very manually, and haven’t found a much better way of cutting samples when I want it done right.

For sample work, e.g a soundpack or similar (or even when preparing my own stuff) I use the built-in audio editor in Renoise. For me it’s a very quick workflow. I drop in 24 samples, they are auto-mapped to each key of my keyboard and then I just press a key, trim and repeat. It has great shortcuts and snaps to zero crossings very nicely. When all is done, just right click the sample list and select save all. Neat.

For post-processing and some batch duties (sr/bit conversion etc) I use Adobe Audition.
I mostly use it to scrub away noise with the spectrum editor. It’s a laborious process and I’ve heard that iZotope RX is much better/faster these days, but I tend to be dumb and stick to what I know for too long.

Audacity - it’s good for being free, but it’s not something I use regularly, or would recommend using as your go to editor.

Resonic is good for previewing many samples in Windows, but on Mac I think Finder is good enough, albeit very slow at times.

(One thing I can say - please stop cutting samples in your DAW, it comes out a mess and I see it so often in samplepacks today.)

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Same here, it really is the best way.

I use wavosaur which is windows only, but there is this https://blog.wavosaur.com/wavosaur-for-mac-with-wineskin/ might be worth a look @avantronica it is way better than audacity but still looks a little dated, a bit more pleasant than the look of audacity, slightly.

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It’s solid, but it’s not really a Mac app in terms of UI/UX. It works, but it’s not really nice to work with. :slight_smile:

Not really, I think. What’s implemented has been done well.

The nice thing about Audacity is that it behaves like a real Mac app when it comes to installing/uninstaling. You can just delete the app when you don’t want it anymore and it won’t leave any traces.

It’s very basic, but offers a decent UI for quick edits and can do it lossless which migh be nice.

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that’s good to know - I’ll possibly just put it on Mojave soon for one off edits for my convenience and switch over to Mavericks if I have a few things that need the benefit of the programs I’m familiar with

otoh - Fission may be a better stop gap - will definitely see if that’s a better way to fill a gap for basic processing, cheers

I’m making the switch from Windows (c25 years of use) to Mac (about 2 hours of use…) later today if the post comes as expected. Going to take some amount of getting used to but I did read a story of someone in similar shoes who actually took his MacBook into an Apple shop to ask staff to demonstrate how to uninstall a program. Cue baffled looks then a light bulb moment of “ah, you’re a Windows user aren’t you?”!

on the topic of migrating to the latest macOS, i’ve had some minor speed issues with mojave, though to be fair it’s not an audio only system and probably a bit bloated these days

gotta say i’m pretty concerned about mojave being the last 32 bit OS from Apple. seems like whatever they drop next is the OS to be concerned about, you’d really need to make sure everything you have is 64bit before jumping. i know i use a lot of old school utils and stuff like that, stuff i really like. might actually keep me on mojave for the foreseeable future

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I think that makes sense. Muscle memory and familiarity will often win over a new “something” that promises faster results.

Especially when you’re old. :smiley:

As always, thanks for responding.

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Still pondering this :

I do like the immediacy, nice touches and OSX friendliness of Fission - I may well explore this in the way I’d resort to Text Edit rather than a word processor e.g.

However, it seems Garage Band is listed as a viable editor, but perhaps with less support for users who are keen to work quickly with keyboard shortcuts - if it’s on Mojave I’ve certainly never opened it, doesn’t strike me as a lean way to edit. Any feedback welcome here

Also : ProTools First seems to be a possibility, but it’s woefully short of details (and then there’s AAX etc) in terms of what it does for general editing - only the top tier offering is listed as having advanced audio editing, whereas First and whatever the regular ProTools is share the same less advanced feature set … any thoughts welcome here too

Reaper appeared in the same article and I wonder if it is actually that useful for an Audio Editor - but there’d be bonus points if it’s an interface that lends itself to quick workflow - although it looks a bit dated

I’m not too keen on bloating the Mojave drive out - so don’t want to find out by trying all this to see - googling and YouTube only take you so far - thoughts appreciated, I think I’ll pass on Audacity for now

even works in the mobile browser:

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New version.

Added features :

Stem separation, new music generation, transcribe voiceovers, and more. Listen to the video for the more. WOW ! We’ll see how well that all works.

They are using technology that is coming for free from Intel. This update is currently only available on the PC.

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Since the last few updates I think Audacity has become a really great tool, I still use Wavosaur too but for certain tasks I actually prefer Audacity now.

The bars/beats update was huge for me, and works pretty nice.

These new features seem to be taking Audacity more into the realms of a commercial DAW, which is quite surprising.

In search for a plain and simple editor with acceptable UI Ocenaudio is worth a look. Doesn’t do everything of course but for me it’s the only editor I need. Good thing is, it’s free aka donationware.

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Had a quick try of stem separation, was a bit better than I expected, the track I tried it separated the drums pretty much perfectly, bass was ok, then it lumps all the other instruments together which seemed ok, the vocals had a bit of bleed from the instruments. But overall, material dependent, I think it could be very useful.

I tried the generator and remixer but they seemed pretty much what I expected, typical AI garbage, but to be fair I only played around with them for a few minutes, so further experimentation might yield something better.

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I use Reaper for all audio editing tasks, wouldn’t even consider going back to dedicated audio editor software except for maybe specific things like spectral editing. Once you’ve set up your shortcuts and macros the workflow is insanely fast.