TLDR;
for my case i really like the cloud of XO to quickly preview similar sounds but to use these sounds out of it us a nightmare. It wants to move out the samples from their original folders.
As for Sononym, i must run a weird version, it doesn’t classify well the sounds. One shits are seen as loops or opposite, auto categories are super wrong, search function doesn’t work properly…
I am looking for another solution.
Yes, and its ‘right click ‘Show in Finder’’ is pretty fast if you want to rename samples.
I think being able to rename samples within any app might be a mixed blessing.
I’m not sure what you mean here, but exporting sounds you are hearing in XO often involves processing done from within XO… so when you export you’re effectively creating a new sample. But it does give the option to export the ‘clean’ version too IIRC.
Yes it does, you can drag and drop samples individually or as a group to your daw.
Worked really nice in ableton, you can drag the list of 8 samples directly to a drum rack, and they’ll automatically map to the pads
I wanted to drag them to a new folder for a future import in the OT. It litteraly made a cut+paste instead of a simple copy.
I’m on MacOs Monterey M1.
From the export menu in XO?
Go to export, hit Render Wavs, drag and drop the Raw Kit and/or Processed Kit to any folder you want, done.
You’ve also got access to individual samples, the whole beat, individual stems from the beat, midi files… all work the same way to drag and drop, it’s one of XO’s strongest points.
That’s legit. I guess i should just make copies of everything. A lot of the sound files are from or referenced in Ableton projects so I don’t want to change the official name.
I had no idea… this is a game changer!
I have all the Sample from Mars packs, so I can pick specific folders of specific sampled drum machines!!
I have to see if it does subfolders
For me it was a pretty easy switch to Atlas. More pads (up to 64), UI design, midi out and more responsive Dev were the main differences.
Matt Weir the lead dev for Atlas also was the lead dev for Serato Sample, another of my fav warez. He is extremely engaged and willing to communicate and listen to users.
Any idea why when I wanna use XO after some time it seems unable to play most of the samples of the cloud? I did rescan few times now but it’s always the same, it would only play like 10% of them.
On the left panel, i got triangles next to the samples as if it cannot find the samples. The option “Click Replace to update path” doesn’t seem to work at all.
I mentioned it before, but the inability to make multiple maps in XO was an instant dealbreaker for me. I much prefer atlas and have been using it a LOT since I bought it a few months ago. I also like the planet view option in atlas that helps me narrow down my search much more quickly than a map with thousands and thousands of tiny dots (the only view option in XO).
I own XO and, yeah, not being able to set up multiple maps and the inability to permanently disable the factory sounds are total buzz-kills. Nowadays I tend to roll my own hits with Backbone and then dive head first into my one-shots folders for hats & percussion.
How do you mean?
I do this all the time, based on sample folders.
I was doing it today.
I’ve got both, but never use Atlas… XO does what I want it to and does it really well.
I can go in XO and start making music quite fast. I like the focus/restraint of 8 channels.
I could never get creative in Atlas, too many options and the beats would always sound quite generic. XO has a vibe.
Atlas is also by far the fastest, bestest, grooviest, sexiest partner to SP-404 App. Plug up your SP, Launch SP App and Atlas and just fast browse your maps or hit random to create unlimited 16-64 part kits that you can just drag and drop right onto SP sample pads (banks).
Mix and match huge Komplete, Expansions, Battery, Logic, Custom Sample Pack Library Folders, Old mixdowns, etc with a click.
You can go a step further and get started with Atlas’ groovey sequencer and a few basic patterns with the generated kits and drag and drop those into SP, resample, chop, or remix with the samples you just drug over. Nuts.
I consider it to be an essential tool for sure.
XO won’t let me make maps from whatever folders of samples I want. Even when trying to narrow my search it won’t let me select sub folders of my giant ‘samples’ folder and trying to add those folders separately it says I can’t because they are sub folders of the ‘samples’ folder I already added. Atlas is just light years ahead as far as having multiple custom maps at your disposal. Add whatever you want to a map, save it, and come back to it any time.
I wish Atlas would exist on MacOS since XO is defective for me.
Personnally I don’t wanna use a sample manager to make music but to help me find samples quickly. So far XO could have the one if it would work properly.
I tried ADSR and Sononym but their auto categorization doesn’t work at all, confusing one shots and loops or proposing me melodic instruments as drums.
It does exist on Mac OS though…
Sorry to hear they’re not working for you… XO and Sononym have become my stable sample management apps over the last year or two, both superb. But, I keep a tight sample library and make sure I bring them all in at folder level.
Sononym would work alongside Atlas too, it’s great for making sense of all the loops in your library, as well as one-shots, where XO and Atlas tend to focus on one-shots.
You’re right, I had wrong memory from the time i was trying different softwares, my bad.
XO just keeps incorporating dots in the cloud that seem to be stock samples but no way to have them played, to delete these dots by unticking their folders or to even find the stock samples on the HD. It used to work.
It would seem chaotic for me to destroy the architecture of a pack by pulling out all of its samples to the root folder of the pack, kind of messy.
Do you think this might bring issues? I mean it scans all the sound formats wherever their are in subfolders or not.
Don’t you have problems with Sononym recognizing badly your samples? Am I cursed? 