AR808 - Released

Justin I couldn’t find a contact link on your site so I must air my ignorance here for all to see. I’m new to Elektron gear and am SHOCKER completely befuddled by the file system. Yesterday I installed the Divine909 pack and - I THINK - your AR808 pack. I followed the directions with the 909 first - STUPID CRAZY amount of steps but got it to work. Then your 808, which C6 seems to have installed but I can’t find the kits/sounds because I don’t know what the hell I’m doing.

Any tips would be appreciated. I know you’ve put a lot of work into this already, but maybe updating the pack to include a basic Project with everything set up (like in the Elektron pack) would be easier than explaining to ignorameses like me.

Excellent contribution!!

Love to see No-Sample kits for the AR!

tnx!

Very impressive stuff. Have you ever considered writing a short PDF e-book where you share your sound design techniques? I’d love to learn from your approach and would be happy to buy such an infoproduct from you.

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Hi Justin,great sounds man,Im seems to have a problem I can not see the sounds on the sound pool,is there,but when I go to replace the maracas @ are not there.

Hi Moonrow,

There are three SYX files included in the AR808 drum pack:

  1. AR-Sounds.syx
  2. AR808-Pat+Kit01
  3. AR808-Pat+Kit02

AR-Sounds.syx contains the individual sounds. You must load these in to the sound pool in order to be able to access them individually.
AR808-Pat+Kit01 and AR808-Pat+Kit02 contain the Kits + Patterns.

The Kits also contain the sounds, but they will not appear in your sound pool. (This is just how the AR sound/kit management works!)

Hope that clears things up.

Cheers,

  • Justin
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Don’t know if I agree with the Infoproduct concept, particularly when we live in the age of free and democratised information.

But here goes…


I know the 808 and 909 drum machines quite intimately and spent time appreciating the circuit design. The circuits can be assimilated into modules and these modules when working together create the individual sounds.
Some of the Machines in the AR and MD already attempt to replicate these modules. It’s just a matter of using them in conjunction with the other sound design tools you have available to get them to sound as close as possible. The tools in the case of the AR & MD refer to the Machines, Filters, Envelopes, LFOs, Amplifier, Distortion etc.

I have had a lot of practice learning how these work together.

For example: You may not know, but the transient of the 808 Kick Drum is actually generated from a digital pulse wave coming from the Sequencer CPU. The pulse wave triggers the analog drum circuit, but is also audible as the transient.

The question to ask is: How to achieve this on the AR using the tools available? Solution: A short burst of distortion at the start of the sound will create a pulse like waveform. You can achieve this using a short LFO routed to DIST. (FYI: The AR already has a pulse at the start of the BD instrument, but it’s not nearly as punchy as the original 808).

When designing a sound I will usually break it down in to 3 regions: The attack/transient, the sustain/body and the decay/tail.
I can then focus on these elements separately. In the case of replicating an existing sound, I will isolate these regions and compare recursively until the region I am working on resembles the original as close as possible.

When working on the individual regions i’ll use my ears in conjunction with a spectrum analyser to view the frequency response. I will also use an oscilloscope and ears to perceive how the volume envelope is shaped with time.

In summary, good sound design is a combination of experience, problem solving and careful listening.

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AbsoLutely Love this sound pack! Sounds meticulously crafted from good times with the original, well done sir!!

Absolutely awesome, Justin, thank you for writing that out. These are the kind of posts/threads I really enjoy. Enough of that “Oh the AR doesn’t do this, it can go straight to hell.” Let’s make the most out of it, like Justin here.

Any word on an 909 pack? PLLLEEEAAASSSEEE.

Don’t know if I agree with the Infoproduct concept, particularly when we live in the age of free and democratised information.[/quote]
Both forms of information sharing can co-exist, IMHO. What you pay for with these products is mostly the effort that has gone into making the information as accessible and organized as possible.
Of course, something like this can be “donationware” in the same way as you’ve done with your sound packs.
Thanks for sharing some of your process here; much appreciated. :slight_smile:

elektron pay the man to do official 909/808/606 kits for the rythm and do A video - maybe spoof the shitty Roland tr8 vids

surely this is a wise marketing move

Good work/sounds! Always dreamt of a 808, now my Rytm is perfect substitute.

Q: how many patterns r there? I just “see” 1 per kit, otherwise Rytm changes kits… Maybe I have to rad the manual carefully…

Thx
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Im pretty stuck with this ATM …
I think I need to do a FULL factory reset again but should confirm.

Heres the story:

[ol]
[li]Loaded the AR808 files using C6[/li]
[li]Got messages confirming it loaded[/li]
[li]Pressed Function+Sound[/li]
[li]Unit froze with blank screen[/li]
[li]Restarted unit[/li]
[li]Only three AR808 sounds worked (rest were default blank)[/li]
[li]Formatted +Drive[/li]
[li]Factory reset[/li]
[/ol]

I started with a fresh AR with only my samples left on the +Drive.

Loaded the AR808 files again.

Same problem - (only three sounds from the AR808 kit present in the soundpool work, the rest are the default sound of the pad)

The Patterns work with the kits except the BD1 is blank.
Ive downloaded the AR808 kit twice to make sure it wasnt corrupt.

Any advice?

edit: Ive contacted Elektron Support.

I had no idea how bad I needed this, Haha. Thank you sir.

Ok so you’re sysex receiving the AR808 sounds to the soundpool?

Have you tried doing a sysex receive of only the AR808-Sounds.syx to an empty bank on the +Drive?

And the BD1 (or SD2, RS3, CP4) isn’t used for the kick drum, it’s the BT5, so when loading the AR808-BD and AR808-BD2 you need to have the BT5 track selected.

Ok so you’re sysex receiving the AR808 sounds to the soundpool?

Have you tried doing a sysex receive of only the AR808-Sounds.syx to an empty bank on the +Drive?

And the BD1 (or SD2, RS3, CP4) isn’t used for the kick drum, it’s the BT5, so when loading the AR808-BD and AR808-BD2 you need to have the BT5 track selected.

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AWESOME! Thanks Lars!
So I didnt know that the AR808 BassDrums cant use the BD1 pad.
(Now I know that the BT5 and BD1 pads dont use the same engine)

So the rest of my issue boils down to that.

So now I gotta keep re-reading the manual over and over and over again trying to get my head around how Elektron want us to manage the sound banks etc.

Youve saved me a few more days of this now Lars CHEERS :joy:

Just figured out the Track = Engine association

Select Track = Pink Pad
( + all pads that use the same engine are dimmed Orange)

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Awesome Kit.

Thank you so much for this.

All the best,

waldemaR

I came across the AR-808 soundpack what shall I say … wow it sounds incredible!
I am really hoping for a Ar-909 yet to be released.
Keep up the good work ! :slight_smile:

Great stuff! thanks.

The AR-808 pack is incredible. Really teaches you nice tricks regarding sound design too!