Anyone using the Syntakt with a Hapax?

Hello,

I use a Hapax to sequence most of my gear, I love it. I’m looking to get a Syntakt as it sounds like a great drum machine and mono synth, but I was wondering if it works like the Digitakt where you can use the 8 tracks on just 1 of the Hapax tracks?

Thanks

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You can trigger tracks 1-12 with notes 0-11 on a single midi channel.

Oh that is nice a bit like the Digitakt then and frees up the rest of the midi tracks on the Hapax for other gear.

Thanks

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I’ve considered looking deeper at the Hapax and already own a Syntakt. What would you consider to be the advantages of the Hapax to Elektron sequencers?

You can, but I found it’s way nicer using 2 Drum Tracks on the Hapax to control the Syntakt… first one controls all your ST Digi tracks (1-8) then you can put your Analogs and FX on the 2nd Hapax Drum Track and control them that way. That allows you to see more at once and have more access to performance functions the Hapax brings.

I need to dig my Hapax back out… I put it away when I was needing to focus on work, but it’s so good. Its not often you get a sequencer that can actually outdo the built in Elektron seq, but that does.

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Yes, it most definitely does (in case my previous post didn’t make that clear).

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Indeed. You could use a Hapax drum track. Either make the instrument definition mapped to 8 different midi channels (for 8 of the ST tracks), or use the lowest note values all on the same midi track like @sezare56 says. I would use separate midi channels for the 8 chosen ST tracks, since there’s then still enough other midi out ports and midi channels to use left for my setup.

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That’s a great idea!

I’m the same I’m so busy and I’ve had little time to use and gear for a while, but tonight I just had the Hapax and Peak together and was so much fun.

I’ve got a Digitone and Digitakt too, but I just don’t have the energy to work with samples and sample management atm so a Syntakt feels better for me.

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My current setup is centered around ST + Hapax.

8 ST tracks are controller by one drum track on the Hapax and 4 ST tracks are controlled as synth tracks on the Hapax.

The pros of sequencing the ST via Hapax
*longer phrases possible
*ableton style clip launching so you can mix and match patterns
*the midi fx on Hapax are gnarly
*ST patterns can be used as kits when not sequencing internally or even as punch in FX if configured correctly (keep a song rolling but try out different sounds really easily by switching patterns)

Major con is losing paramater locking but you still keep conditional trigs and the Hapax automation is also very capable. Not a 1:1 replacement for sure but good in its own way.

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Sounds like a really nice setup. The P-Lock feature as you say is the main exclusion but those algorithms and automation options on the Hapax are just Amazing and probably more to come.

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I wish there was more Hapax content out there! It is always nice to go find videos of something I haven’t thought about doing with an Elektron box, but there just isn’t much out there on the Hapax. The RMR video was great, but not much else being made about it.

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The more I use it, the more I realize that the Automation mode on the Hapax is absolutely incredible.

You probably know this already, but if you want it to behave more like P-locks, set the Max Rate to 4PPQN, and turn Interpolation off.

My only complaint is that there’s only so much MIDI you can get down one MIDI cable :grin:

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set the Max Rate to 4PPQN, and turn Interpolation off.

Wait what! I didn’t know this. I can’t find this can you explain a little more where I find this?

Go to the specific automation lane, click on it to get options. If you set the Max Rate PPQN to 4, it’ll only send once per 16th note.

Turn off Interpolation with the encoder (I think its the 3rd one on top row, says Inter or something like that). Interpolation is like the smoothing between values, when its off it’ll only send one value at a time, set by the Max Rate.

There’s a ton of other useful stuff, it’s worth going through the manual slowly, check every single bit and tip, and try them out as you read them!

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Cool trick!

I use the Hapax to sequence my E-boxes (DTII-ST) sometimes, but the lack of pitch sequencing in drum mode is really annoying. I’d love to try an Oxi One that can do that in its “multitrack” mode, but the lack of Midi FXs and a general feel of clunkyness of the workflow, compared to the Hapax, always make me push the brake on that.

It is also true that an hybrid approach, as @VROS posted earlier here, could be really powerful and convenient once one develop the proper muscle memory on switching between midi tracks

You can have p-locks on the Hapax using Instrument Definitions, IIRC… they give you access to the majority of ST parameters and you can p-lock the values in the Hapax.

It’s not ‘as’ fluid as doing it on the ST itself, but it’s not far off. (And you won’t get the ‘white box’ visual that you get on the Elektron when you hold down a trig… which I think is a big part of the Elektron flow).

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So you can p-lock on the Hapax per step?

Their recent official tutorials were good, but I address there needs to be more out there.

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Essentially, yes!

You can mimic how it works by limiting the MIDI CCs to change only on 16th notes.

Not exactly the same, but very close.

However, this wasn’t just a flippant remark… there’s a difference between sequencing/p-locking internally, and doing it externally. Advantages and disadvantages!

I need to try and follow that and see if I can figure it out. I wish there were more videos on YouTube regarding the Hapax and these neat tricks.