If it’s got a sample engine which can be locked asynchronously it should allow for 16 different voices… sorta.
But I agree with your bottom line. The MD is far from dead and will definitely keep you satisfied for a long while. Probably long after you’ve saved up enough for it’s new blackface lil bro.
lol we don’t even know the specs. what drum models are there, etc. wait for the manual and the early adopters to find bugs!
i’m not so sure it samples/resamples (or will process external audio) rather than it’ll load samples. making my own samples of the machinedrum as i’m using it is a huge part of the fun.
don’t know the MIDI support either. it’ll be interesting to see if it has CV like the A4. or maybe it just straight up mirrors your tracks.
that said, assuming it has sound locks, like the a4, it’s gonna be capable of sounding like way more than 12 or even 16 tracks in a lot of cases.
@drone
i’m not sure what you mean? i like the machinedrum sequencer more than the octatrack for a lot of things. non-linear? imo it’s the easiest to switch patterns and play mutes and the tracks are all in front of you, no audio/MIDI flipping, which gets confusing.
+1000
Lol.
People who ordered the Analog Keys still haven’t gotten theirs. So i would say it would take some time until you’ll get feedback from actual users about the Analog RYTM.
I think it would be good for Elektron to make some videos with the MD and AR together (as well as the A4 and AK, maybe) to demonstrate some of the differences/complementary features of the units together. Terrible for my GAS, but it would probably keep them from losing MD sales to their new machine, and help convince MD owners that they need the AR as well.
Just try a RS7000 once, and you’ll discover what is a real sequencer…
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Just try a RS7000 once, and you’ll discover what is a real sequencer…[/quote]
Yes even a cheap second hand rm1x has an incredible sequencer compared to any of the elektron boxes.
I’m curious about their use of the word ‘computer’ instead of ‘machine’ for the AR. Not sure if somebody has already commented on it. Maybe to differentiate it from ‘drum machines’? So not a ‘drum machine’ but a ‘drum computer’. An analog computer? Any thoughts about the possible difference, in that respect, against the Machinedrum?
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I don’t think so - I think they’re just using ‘drum computer’ in that retro-cool, late 70’s / 80s use of the word ? Maybe because this thing is essentially analogue it seems apposite from a marketing point of view to call it a drum computer…sort of evokes all those old memories of the 1st analogue beat boxes ( preset usually ! ) that we first used / saw. ( if you’re an old git like me that is 
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Just try a RS7000 once, and you’ll discover what is a real sequencer…[/quote]
Yes even a cheap second hand rm1x has an incredible sequencer compared to any of the elektron boxes. [/quote]
Yes, and I have to say that those machines (RS7000/RM1X) were built at the end of the 90’s (for the RM1X), and in 2000 (RS7000). So, what’s the problem with electron sequencers? Why such an obsolete conception? They could take Yamaha as an example, and even do better if they want. But do they want to built real sequencers, or just toys for young children?
Drone: Stop trolling.Calling elektron sequencer a toy for children is just bullshit. There will always be a compromise between features - ease of use. Ive had the rs7000 and i hated it. I didnt find the sequencer that special. It had some ok functions, but i got results so much faster with my Mnm.
I’m not trolling: I give my advice, and I argue. And I repeat: elektron sequencers are bullshit for young children knowing nothing to complex music. To use my MD and my OT, I need to slave them to my RS. If I’m so unhappy, it’s because at the beginning I bought my OT to replace the RS (whose sound is crap, I must admit, and whose sampler is just a toy). The OT has a great sampler. But, I repeat that I hate electron sequencers, and it’s not a troll: it’s an attempt to make people from electron to react and to improve their gear so that people liking real and creative sequencers could use their machines. As you can see on this thread and on others, I’n not alone thinking that. So: stop trolling and sorry if you don’t like what I say, just don’t read my posts, that’s all.
There’s nothing wrong with a “toy” if it get’s the job done without too much effort. One major advantage of the MD is its simple, straight-forward layout.
I’d be interested to hear what you, drone, exactly miss on elektron sequencers, in particular the OT sequencer. I can’t imagine anything which couldn’t be simulated on the OT with some clever setup, even random trigs, reverse playback etc. In my opinion, you should be precise regarding what exactly you mean. However, I fear we’re getting too far out of the original topic.
I had been interested in an analog drum machine by elektron somewhere in the past, but not that much atm. Let’s see what comes though.
aslong as you play with your toys, who cares 
i think we can go beyond binary opposites; good and bad, toy and not toy is not good enough for a forum of this nature
if one is going to flat out dismiss something with no logical reason other than “it sucks” or “i don’t like it” expect your opinion to be valued as such
I have to say, there are a lot of things I don’t like about the OctaTrack, but it’s definitely not the sequencer…
But to each his/her own.
I get more and more interested to hear what exactly he dislikes.
Just try a RS7000 once, and you’ll discover what is a real sequencer…[/quote]
Yes even a cheap second hand rm1x has an incredible sequencer compared to any of the elektron boxes. [/quote]
I’ve had both the RM1X and the RS7000. The RM1X couldn’t do x0x style without solo-ing the track. Incredibly stupid. The RS7000 fixed that at some point after an update. IIRC both units couldn’t switch between record and play mode without stopping the sequencer. But I may be off on that one. For my purposes, sequencing, recording, mangling without ever prerssing stop, the octa is miles above the RS7000.
This is the whole MnM vs A4 debate all over again.
If people should have learned anything by now, it’s that the MnM really does indeed shine next to the A4 and I gather there will be similar sonic magic when using the MD and RYTM combined.
Some people on these forums seem to think just because something is labelled Analog that it shits magic rainbow skittles and unicorn turds.
We haven’t even seen the feature set as yet.
Steady on good people.
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I have to say, there are a lot of things I don’t like about the OctaTrack, but it’s definitely not the sequencer…
But to each his/her own.
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I’d somewhat agree - I don’t find it intuitive as a realtime sampler and I’ve used a few in my time.
That said the sequencer is great fun.
You aren’t arguing you’re putting people down who find different working methods better suited to them.
“And I repeat: electron sequencers are bullshit for young children knowing nothing to complex music” - I am going to call you out on this comment alone. I used to be one of the main moderators at RS7000.rg (FaX-O-Matic) and anyone who new me from back then knows how familiar I was/ am with all things RS7000 related.
Complex music comes from the ideas and concepts an artist uses and then executes using various tools at their disposal. To infer that nothing complex can emerge from simplistic working methods is quite frankly ridiculous. The MnM/OT & A4 sequencers combined can pull off some very powerful and quirky polyrhythmic routines and melodic lines that can be jammed on, built up and broken down on in highly intuitive and immediate ways.
Personally I always felt the QY700 was the pinnacle of Yamaha sequencing and there are some rather convoluted points to the RS7K’s operation that may not gel with the way others work. Not having sequences stay in memory would be one, effects glitching when cutting between two separate styles on the unit, the Midi A/B output config. Step sequencing CC’s and NRPRN’s is no where near as immediate as Elektron’s use of parameter locks, sample management on the RS7K leaves a to to be desired also, no where near enough scenes to make decent use of and so on and so forth. The scrolling across grid pages when working in odd metered times sigs could be a right pain in the ass at times too, but hey if it floats your boat then good for you.
It is a very good sequencer for super complex work but I would imagine anyone here with a great understanding of Elektron kit could get equally as complex in structuring of tracks and compositions.
From a sound design view point with sequencer integration the RS7K comes in a bit of a paltry second truth be told and it only ever really shone when using it with other gear.
Just because it suits your workflow it doesn’t make everyone else on here a bullshit know nothing child and you somehow more superior (which is what you’re inferring with the above statement).
A tool is a tool and only as good as the person using it to hone their craft, complexity comes from the interaction of a myriad of elements and not from the choice of sequencer one uses. At they end of the day they both only ever record and spew out the midi data that is created for them.
This was sequenced entirely via the OT and MnM - yes it uses other hardware and recorded in Logic but I don’t see it lacking in the sort of complexity you seem to believe is evident in Elektron based sequencing - (it certainly doesn’t sound like much less of anything than I ever created using an RS7K or QY700 either) but I digress.
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Thanks, VennDiagram.