Well, I’m sold. This is a much larger # of demos than I had expected and a fantastic diversity of musical and performance styles, really great showcase of what the machine can do. Also sonically this is right up my street, as I like my kicks tight and snares snappy, I can tell I’ll ‘get on’ with the individual machines. So it looks like I’ll have to rearrange me desk again so I can fit the OT, A4 and AR all in a row.
True, but if you have different scenes that affect different sounds then you would get a ton of combinations. I did not expect to be able to have multiple scenes operational at once, that opens up a huge volume of possibilities.
For example you have 12 pad, so suppose you treat them as 3 groups of 4 (with each of the 4 affecting similar machines, so they’re not meant to play simultaneously), just selecting one scene pad from each row would give you 64 different sound combination. 4 groups of 3 would give you 81 different combinations.
I wonder what happens if you do have parameters in two different scenes that affect the same thing - does it just take the most recent value or average the two values, eg one pad increases a filter cutoff by +24 while another decreases it by -12, do it you play them together would you get +12? Also, can you sequence the scenes in Song mode somehow? I hope that they and the performance controls will be MIDI-controllable as on the A4.
I like all the demos but I think ‘Dumb and Baus’ really stands out in terms of how strong the machine can sound on its own. In many ways I’d say this is the best choice for someone buying their first Elektron box.
I’ve been sold since day one, but these demos really demonstrate the flavor of this machine. It’s got a little bit of “classic” lineage (especially with the HH/CY), but a ton of original tones. You match that with the most expressive sequencer out there and the amazing FX and you have an insta-buy.
I wouldn’t even compare the AIRA to the AR. It’s like Folgers vs. a small, locally roasted coffee; one is a utilitarian and ubiquitous drink, the other is a fresh, complex product of passion.
Weren’t you dancing around with glow sticks when the Roland toy was announced?
What happened dude? I thought it you were gonna find some yet unheard of innovative scatter technique to wow us all?
Weren’t you dancing around with glow sticks when the Roland toy was announced?
What happened dude? I thought it you were gonna find some yet unheard of innovative scatter technique to wow us all?
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fan boy comments are unnecessary- no need to derail a good thread.
Dude can buy whatever he wants, not sure why you’re pointing fingers because he’s interested in more than one drum machine.
Weren’t you dancing around with glow sticks when the Roland toy was announced?
What happened dude? I thought it you were gonna find some yet unheard of innovative scatter technique to wow us all?
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Aren’t you the guys who said and i quote…
“And while you do that useless task, some of us on here will actually be contributing to the music scene and defining a career.”
you’re mean and arrogant with so little reason to be.
The sample manipulation and handling is a bit deeper than I expected.
I wonder if there is any possibility for an external in routing in place of the sample for a voice; that way, an external source can be sent through all the goodies.
I’d also like some compressor details, particularly sidechain detection/processed routings of individual tracks & external in. Can the external in be used for trigger and the AR output compressed or just the other way around? Can an individual track be chosen as the trigger and the remaining voices squashed?
if you look at the published specs and signal path diagram you will probably see that the External Input occurs in the Output section just after the analog Distortion. this means probably No- the Ext Input would be only affected by the Compressor which is quite a puzzling decision as this begs the question as to why bother adding an External Input at all. It seems its only purpose is to bring in external audio and combine it with the drum machine sounds and gel them together with the compressor.
To answer your side chain question it looks like no side chain is possible at all based on the diagrams. There is no provision for side chain and the Ext Input is not routable at all - the main LR output being its only path.
That’s what the signal path diagrams looked like to me as well. I thought I remembered in one of the namm videos that sidechain with the compressor was mentioned.
The typical use for sidechain compression in electronic music is to use the kick as the sidechain input to duck the level of the bass line every time the kick hits. In this scenario you’d only run the bass through the compressor and not your full mix.
It doesn’t really makes sense to include a compressor for this inside the AR since in most cases you’re not actually using it to create a distinct bass line in the traditional sense (even though you could if you wanted to).
there is one LFO per voice which can be used to fake side chain compression, but that ties up that LFO.
Since the RYTM features individual outputs you can always use real external gear to set up real actual side chains but it’s a real limitation that you can’t do that completely inside the box.
Can a baseline from an external source be sidechain compressed triggered by whatever track I have my kick on? And can you do it the other way around? Baseline created on an internal track compression triggered by the external in.
This Is the type,of thing I think of when sidechain is mentioned. Could always fake it on other elektron gear, but was thinking we might get true sidechain in this box.
The sidechain details are missing from the specs but it is listed in the FAQ
“The stereo distortion and compressor master effects are also completely analog, including the compressor’s detector and sidechain circuits.”
Hope fully more will be revealed soon! There may be some additional routing options.
So are all these tracks 100% from the synth engine and no samples? Sounds great.
Not all. See description on soundcloud for each track.
Well the demos sound great as expected with the sample layering I suspect there will be a lot of scope for experimentation.
Im kind of thinking of it as a KORG ER1 (My favourite old elektribe) deluxe model 
ok…so I’ve listened through the demos again…carefully.
You got me, again, Elektron. I’m in. 
The Namm demos seemed to make more use of the FM Basslines, not so much of that in these demos. I’m sold anyway, the dillema is whether to wait for a while to avoid any bugs or pre-order.
Finally got round to listening to these tonight. Even the wife was tapping her feet. Thing sounds monstrously good. If only I were a richer man!
Weren’t you dancing around with glow sticks when the Roland toy was announced?
What happened dude? I thought it you were gonna find some yet unheard of innovative scatter technique to wow us all?
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fan boy comments are unnecessary- no need to derail a good thread.
Dude can buy whatever he wants, not sure why you’re pointing fingers because he’s interested in more than one drum machine.
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I’m a supporter and user of Elektron instruments. Fanboy is a term created by nerds, for nerds.