Analog mixer for studio / live techno

I would think the faders and console helps on the ITB mixing.

Are you planning on using a patch bay to change the inputs on the mixer to daw? Just curious about workflow.

I usually mix analog after recording. I love it, but it does make you commit as recall a mix on a 32 channel mixer is not fun. He he.

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Yes, I have a patchbay wired to each input and from that one i have the top row for the instruments (individual outs) and the bottom row for the DAW return.

I’ve also find that I really like to have magnets with permanent labels for each channel (scribble can also be added below the fader, I’ve got blank white magnets for that) - it just feels a bit easier to quickly scan and understand, for me at least :blush:.

I’ve had quite a bit of outboard but decided to move the mixing ITB when I got the Console combo - now it’s only the AH and a Kurzweil Rumour plugged into the Midas.

I totally agree that analog mixing would be ideal - the great mixers I know swear by it actually taking them less time to mix on analog than ITB but the lack of total recall is screwing it up for them.

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So a small update… I repaired my Mackie in a super low budget service center - all buttons cleaned and some components replaced in master section for 45$. Works good at least now.

Played a solid club gig tonight with it, I can say I really get the size and design of 1202 for live and 2-3 instruments and a couple of pedals. Basic and good for live performance… At the same time sound was good, but reminded me a bit all my 2000s lives - all is a bit oversaturated and smashed, not enough headroom I guess…

Maybes there’s something of the same size (no faders, 4mono/4stereo/2sends) but with more “open“ and breathing sound. Still like the saturation on Mackie preamps, good for 303 and things like that…

Vintage or custom?

Those magnet labels looks very handy. Where did you get them?

In my head ive always thought that repatching to do an analog mixdown was too much hassle. But compared to zero out the mixer it is hardly any work. hehe. I have an inline mixer, so i dont need to repatch.

It is so much faster to mix analog for me at least. And it gives me better results than mixing in the box. Getting levels in the 95% ballpark is done in a couple of minutes. And when you start doing eq work, it is very nice to have everything in front of you. Still use stuff like compressors and eq in the box if i need to. But i have never tried motorized faders for DAW or console 1.

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Thats cheap for any kind of work! But cool that you “saved” it.

If you just lower the levels headroom issue shouldnt be a problem. When using mostly electronic instruments the dynamic range is pretty narrow anyway, so that much headroom is not that important.

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You can get them on ebay (search for ‘magnetic labels midas venice’). I think you can also get them for patchbays.

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Perhaps I need to revisit my labelling system

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I feel like handwritten notes are warmer, somehow fatter than digitally printed labels.

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Of course it is. Because it’s analog!

I ruined everything with this labeling! He he

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Might start selling a custom set on eBay :joy:
Vintage y’know

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I found this. Looks great.

http://store.mixperience.net

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I’ve bought a few sets, even for the OTs and Console combo. I’ve had a great experience doing business with this guy (he’s also printed a label for my patchbay).

Edit: @aloud beat me to it
Edit 2: and of course @Schnork too, I see :grin:

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Those look so cool. Not cheap though!

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It’s not the one you take with you every night to the free gig at dirty and punky techno club : )

It’s missing a flat surface to put your beer. Cant take it to clubs then.

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Hi there ! I am too, looking for a mixer to do live and studio. I’m more looking at combos interface / mixer. I tried mtk12 and 22, and now I have a Qu Pac. Actually now I’m getting a little annoyed with the USB issues they have (crazy threads the A&H forum), I’m also missing the faders and knobs ^^

Right now, I’m thinking either to go back to the mtk12, or get a tascam model 16. Do you guys have any tips regarding that type of range ?
Btw, I’m doing live techno with a few machines as well.

Why not setup a midi controller for the qu pac?

Sounds interesting ! I’ll have a closer look at this :slightly_smiling_face: To be honest, it’s more the USB streaming issues that are bothering me, than the actual usability of the box. The short version, is that there are issues of compatibility with recent computers and usb3. If you feel like reading: Topic: Digital noise when streaming audio via USB-B. | Allen & Heath Digital Community

Yes , i had this too - there are usb2 audio cards which you can plug into your computer. They cost about 30-50 € - there are some compatible ones.

I have this qu pac mixer myself, therefore i know its good and bad sides. I had this mouse moving latency mon increase myself, because of lots devices require usb, and i needed those. (Mouse /keyboard / usb sticks etc.) Having that usb card on a different interrupt helped.

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