I have multiple fx pedals I wanna use and I don’t really wanna damage line connections on the ghost with patching cables in and out. Patch bay will make the connections more easier from all outs and inputs in my studio to the daw as well. It’s unexpensive and it’s better damage this device which will be easier to replace rather than servicing your ghost or other mixer which can cost you lot of money.
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Yeah, i see that point. A little worried about mine as i dont know if it has the later “gold plated” jacks, or the earlier ones that are prone to faliure. I have all my pedals on aux’s, and have just switched out pedals at the “pedalboard” so i dont have to remove jacks on the mixer.
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I often use my pedals on serie in my live set so the patch bay is great in that purpose, I could still set up the output and inputs from aux and fx back to the patchbay. Just need a bunch more of cables.
I only have typical send effect pedals. But have some of them connected to the channels instead of aux returns. Cool for dub style feedback delay or for sending delay into reverb or stuff like that.
Have you had yours long?
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I often do that with distortion delays and reverb back into the channels. It’s great to have control with eq / lp / hp on those fx. I own mine since few months now. A mixer is definitely a great way of routing multiple sources together. I could do it with a sound card with tons of in and outs but I like to learn the old way of doing mixing and routing my stuffs together. Using the onboard Eq’s and filters make my computer CPU breaths a little more as well 
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yeah, the EQ is geared towards live use. obviously many people use them in the studio though. awesome mixers. used to have a 240 but wasn’t really utilizing it fully so sold it. kinda miss it…
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I did the “no mixer” game for alot of years. Had 16 ins and out before i got my ghost. Now i added 10 more ins and out. Still need more. hehe. Want to get a dedicated in and out for all channels plus some of the bus´es and master out.
Nothing beats having a mixer. Even if it means a bit more noise.
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I had a Soundcraft Spirit M8 for a while and really liked its sound. 8 TRS mono channels with direct outputs, 4 aux channels and 4 stereo channels.
I got it for 100 euros. The only reason I parted with it was because it was too big for my studio.
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Damn, I’d love a an older Mixwizard over A&H’s newer offerings. How about just getting it cleaned up?
My cheap solution for live usage is old Boss BXs (8 and 16) - preamps got plenty of colour and saturation - depends on your idea of “nice”, but for live - light as you can get. BX 16 - only 2 mono sends - and best to route back into audio inputs, not use the internal return - but I reckon the summing is pretty nice. For studio - Soundcraft FX 16 - neutral and boring by comparison. but obviously far more flexible.
BX 8 and 16 used in live set below (part 1 electro, part two, 4 to floor) - into a compressor (maybe not your taste, but hey for the sake of an example.
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Well maybe you’re right, and it’s still worth cleaning it. I guess it’s not an easy task, all buttons (mutes and assignment to buses ) are dusty too and sometime you have to press 2 times to set it right as well as pan and gain pots make noises. I feel like the only way is to replace them all and with tech money and price of all components, I guess it won’t be cheap.
Still thinking, got the budget for Midas or something like that, but want to make sure it will be a really wise choice in terms of usability and sound.
Nice examples of Boss usage, both lives sounds warm and “vintage”. Cool!
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I traded in a Qu16 for a Xone96. So far it’s amazing to play with - I use a delay and reverb on the sends and you still have six stereo inputs.
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What’s wrong with the returns?
They’re too noisy to be usable - even for live sets.
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Really may not need replacement parts and may not be too expensive to get a techie to clean it. MixWizards have very good reputation.
I don’t have much experience with Midas, but I’d say they’re pretty hi/fi and pristine.
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Just note that the Tascam 12 is not analog (which the OP asked for)
It is analog.
Maybe you had the Zoom Livetrak L12 in mind? They’re digital.
Edit; apparently not. Sry.
I was also under the impression it is analog, but someone told me it is not. I then checked on Tascam’s site, and cannot find where they state it is analog.
E.g. for the Model 16 this is the title and first paragraph:
Model 16
14-Channel Analogue Mixer With 16-Track Digital Recorder
An all-in-one analogue mixer, multi-track digital recorder and audio interface
However for the Model 12:
Model 12
Mixer / Interface / Recorder / Controller
Integrated Production Suite for Music and Multimedia Creators
The only mention of analog on the page is: “Combining the feel of an analogue user interface with the efficient workflow and pristine quality associated with digital recording and production, …”
Wording is a bit ambiguous. I cannot find anywhere where they explicitly state that it is analog?
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It is advertised everywhere (online shops, reviews etc.) as analog mixer, but indeed you’re right.
I’ve checked the signal flow chart in the manual - the signal goes through the adc right after the input.
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I’ve just talked to A&H official service, technician on the phone told me it should be just about 100 - 150 euro to replace all bad buttons and pots, check and repair all the wirings if needed and basically “make it great again” for another couple of decades.
I also asked him what he thinks of the idea selling it and get something else used. After he found out that it’s old 90s A&H made in UK he told that it’s quite a valuable board even now so at least he wouldn’t recommend to sell it for nothing, also that he doubt that it really make sense except I’m going to spend a lot more. The only thing he afraid of is that sometimes after heavy usage some non traceable problems starting to occur, like disappearing channels etc, in this case it’s really hard to track it and guarantee that it won’t happen again. At least they can look at it for free and say what can be done.
So probably I will drop it to the service and give it a try.
Anyway, would love to hear more thoughts, especially from those who make electronic / techno / live sets with analog machines. Maybe there’s still a super secret killer mixing tool to discover.
Mine was adding a FMR RNC on the master insert 
Changed my overall mix.
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