Analog Four/Keys OS 1.51: bug reports

My bad, I was on my phone and thought I was on the DT/DN beta thread for some reason. Weird.

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I have both A4MK2 and Digitone, so before report I checked behaviour with arp on both devices, and after that considered situation with arp on A4 as bug, because behaviour is different.
I didn’t check behaviour with single infinite note on digitone, so now i did it and behaviour with infinite single note is the same - mute does not work on both devices. I think it’s logically correct, just simply not so intuitive for me.
But arp behaviour expected to be consistent across both devices.
Current behaviour of Arp:
A4 - mute doesn’t work
Digitone - mute works with arp, it doesn’t play after mute.

Clever me just update my A4 before the gig. Every time is I load a kit, the pattern a missing. I try everything out. Nothing helps🤯. Does anyone know any solution ?

It’s very hard to understand your problem, really.
Save your current project as new, reload the previous one, maybe.
And please try to take the time to clearly explain your problem.

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You got the answer already in another thread: just loading a kit doesn’t load a pattern. The pattern has a kit assigned - not the other way around.

So you’ll need to load a pattern first and then change the kit assigned to it (if that’s what you want).

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Check this thread : it’s for MM but applies the same to A4 structure.

Re-read the manual or look for information on this forum about the parts that talk about Kits and Patterns: you don’t have a clear comprehension of what they are.
In a nutshell

  • Kits: gathers all the information about Sounds and FX, to be saved manually, can be shared accross several patterns
  • Pattern: all the information about the sequencer (trigs, plocks), automatically saved, linked to one and only one Kit

This has been happening since 1.50, it didn’t happen in previous versions. I suspect it’s because of the midi forwarding they introduced. I submitted a bug report in the 1.50A thread but I can’t remember if I submitted a ticket to Elektron or not.

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poly arp still plays 1 note first before playing chords, reported this a year ago and still waiting

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not sure if it is only problem on 1.51 or is it Overbridge related - when in Arp mode, notes sent via Overbridge in Ableton are not played correctly and all messed up

disabling lfo retrig on a seq step has no impact on the retrig behaviour when lfo mode is set as “trig”?

First post, just thought I’d throw it here because I hadn’t seen anyone else mention this. If no one else has, I’ll file a report! Didn’t want to choke up Elektron’s tickets with previously reported bugs.

On the user env pages (1&2), holding FUNC and turning the envelope depth encoder to the left will not snap from 0 to -127, but to -12. Turning right with FUNC held will snap to 127 as expected. Has anyone else experienced this? (This on an A4 MKI).

To be honest, I’d quite like if additional step values were added, eg FUNC + TURN would step through a couple of depths -> [-128, … -64, -32, -16, 0, 16, 32, 64, … 128], representing a 1/8th (12.5%) step though the depth range. If that’s too many, maybe 25%, or 50% jumps would also work. This would be useful for the LFO depth as well, rather than jumping it from 0 to 100% depth. Feature request/fix combined?

Love this machine, only issue I’ve had so far with it :).

Update:

This bug is present for encoder J for both ENV pages, and both of the LFO pages. It looks like it’s just a 7 missing from the “-127” integer, so it always snaps to “-12”.

Submitting a bug report :slight_smile:

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the missing 3rd digit is an old bug mentioned here a while back (thread locked)

…but another report send to support can’t hurt :slight_smile:

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Ah, apologies. I’d scanned this thread, hadn’t checked old OS version threads, my bad :frowning:!

Only owned the A4 it since v1.50, noticed it was present in v1.51C when I updated it the other day, so thought it was worth raising it here.

I had also noticed a problem with song mode FX tracks staying P-Locked when exiting song-mode, but not double-tapping stop to halt effects. I am still trying to work out the exact repo steps to cause the issue. It might not even be a bug, and me misunderstanding how a parameter locks on pattern change.

What I think I remember doing:

  • Song mode:
    1x A1 (Kit value; Delay 77)
    1x A2
    1x A3
    1x A4 (Plocked step 122 delay feedback)
  • Exited song mode, but didn’t doubletap stop
  • Jumped to A1
  • A1 started playing with 122 feedback

It felt like it allowed a P-Lock of 122 delay feedback on Track A5 to stay P-Locked playing on A1, despite no locks on the A1 track. I’d have expected it to jump back to the 77 value assigned within the pattern. Like I say, I’m still unsure if this is a bug, or a case of a PLock not being unlocked due to no trigs on A1 to reset it to 77. Double tapping pause, then playing A1 sounded like it returned to the expected value of 77.

I’ll keep investigating, it didn’t seem like a big deal. I guess if I’d taken my headphones off and just left it running, hadn’t noticed, I’m sure the delay swell would have gotten crazy :P. I did have a sweaty moment of confusion when the volume started to build, but doubletap stop always works thankfully!

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Kits don’t reload on pattern change if you lock the fx they will stay at that value until another lock is encountered or you manually reload the kit.

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Good to know, thanks for clearing that up :). Need to be super careful with the feedback delay and overdrive plocks then :wink:.

I’ll start using the 1st-only conditional trig to reset the FX on pattern change to get around this when appropriate :).

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Maybe things get mixed up here(?). Just maybe, don‘t have a4 here atm and never tested that with songmode exactly ( i should use it more its my lazyness etc…).
There is a box where you can check kit reload on pattern change. But ( I wrote too many times I miss it or don’t understand the reason) there is no box to check pattern reload on change. And p-locks are part of the pattern.

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One small thing that I’ve noticed mentioned in one other thread back in 2016, but couldn’t see in any bug report threads via search:

A4 MK 1:

  • Performance macros set to bipolar mode don’t display a dot when set to neutral (0). The dot appears when it is fully open in the negative direction (-64).

Unsure if this was ever raised as a bug. I’m also unsure if this affects the MK2 unit. I’ll add a ticket.

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I have a click problem! Trying to figure out if it’s hardware or firmware (1.51C here) causing it.
Anyone have a spare minute to try out this basic preset? Just hold down any note and listen for clicks every few seconds. Preset should load into A4 (mk1&2) and AK easily via Transfer. Cheers!

OSC LVL CLIX.afsnd (624 Bytes)

I’ll download this patch and give it a shot tomorrow.

Out for a gig in Glasgow tonight, I’ll check it when I’ve got hold of my A4 :).

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