Lets talk the Envelopes please.
my concern is mainly the one in the AMP section. Personally i´m refering here to the Attack and Decay stage but NOT the hold stage:
so up front release in so many occasions the crowd here was refering to that th DT is a Drumsampler / Drummachine.
just:
The AMP Envelope is NOT reflecting this ! ( Attack and Decay )
thats my opinion
Whats yours on that matter ? please post your satisfaction or dissatisfaction
my Dissatisfaction and further thoughts:
everything in the “more percussive area” has to little of a sweet spot respectivly is it too fiddly to maneuver around in the subtleness of the settings,
while a real subtleness is never given.
Yes, i can get there, but allways just feels so “lala”…no further playground to hover around a sweetspot.
(again: refering to Attack and Decay )
I find the ENV setup to be tailored for “all kind of uses”,
while the DT on the other side shows in many other aspects that it was more tailored towards the use in the drum and percussions area n the whole.
while the ENV settup would be one of the most important aspects here.
look, doing percussive stuff, tiny bits of a adjustment can make quite a difference and can be important for optimising ones sounds,
while i´d say if one wants to have long going samples the subtelness of a setting is much less important.
i use mostly 1/16 in the lenght parameter page which is quite small.
I have not experimented here that much, but the DT felt definitly much less optimized than my old OT in the whole ( lenght setting and ENV setting together )
should be rethought and reworked.
my opinion
( yes, its a wish for the wishlist. but i think important enough to see what “experienced” users think on that matter. )
P.S. i also work here with 1, 2 and 4 Bar long running samples.
i make the main adjsutment then with the hold stage.
i don´t see a loss if the attack and Decay stage would be more tailored towards the more percussive work
that’s nifty, you could go a step further and show the actual attenuation
in that example the overlay of the envelope gives the impression that it’s going to clip the wave into that shape vs attenuate it, some people might want the view of the whole wave so maybe an option in settings too
Cenk:
“It is designed to be a drummachine, rather than a full fledged sampler such as the Octatrack…”
so, please @Elektron HQ:
give the Envelopes some rework please !
they are setup as the machine would have been made for ambient people.
its terrible unsubtle to adjust on Drums and Percussion in the area where it counts.
True stuff, being able to raise and lower the volume of “hold” would allow for more flexibility with percussion getting a good snap, body, and then air behind it. Attack, height adjustable hold, and decay. An onboard compressor combined with resampling would work wonders to the amps flexibility too…
i personally want to p-lock my Envelopes precisely on the fly.
one LFO is not enough for me to use it to “adjust” some subtleties other if i want to adjust one sound super precisely only for resampling purposes.
looking this way to it, thats indeed a useful tip for such a situation LyingDalai.