Hello, after updating my Analog Four MKII, the light of my left and right arrows, to signal that micro timing is active, are no longer lit up when i hold the trig key buttons.
Is this a bug, is anybody familiar with this issue?
By the way, I updated to version 1.52.
Thanks Grtz Eric
hi, I’m not familiar with that behavior because none of the elektron devices I own have a microtiming indicator, but did you check the change log for the software updates and look at any of the changes indicated by elektron between your prior version and the one that you have now? If your update came with some added functionality, maybe the behavior changed, or maybe there’s a problem, but I wouldn’t know without checking.
Also, did you try in a new, freshly started project so that nothing in a prior project might influence the behavior and that way you can confirm the behavior is global and not localized to one project, or old projects, specifically?
Anything else strange which seems not in line with prior behavior for the device or seems like a bug?
Did you use test mode to do the keys test and verify that the LED light that you’re referring to isn’t burnt out? When you hold down trigs 3, 4, or 5 during the keys test it should make all lights on the device light up in uniform colors as indicated by which part of the RGB combo bulb that trig is responsible for (in test mode). If you hold down 3, 4 and 5 together they should all light up white and that will provide a good opportunity to confirm if the behavior seems more like a hardware defect or if it does what it’s supposed to.
If all indications are that the behavior changed globally and that the light still functions as normally when tested, then I’d start looking for documentation which supports that it might have been changed as part of a feature upgrade.
If you haven’t done any of that, I’d try a few more things before we jump to the conclusion that it’s a bug, however bugs are definitely a thing with elektron devices so if it turns out to be a bug I’d say it’s good to report that in the A4 bug reports thread, which may be a good place to do a localized search and see if anyone else has experienced the same behavior and documented it, if you aren’t getting sufficient responses here.
Good luck
Hello shigginpit,
Thanks for the reply.
- A new project does not make a difference, I just tried.
- Nothing else is off grid as far as I know.
- I did use the test mode, and alle light (3,4,5) work fine. I can not test the white light in test mode, at least I do not thin this option is there?
- Where can I find the documentation for the feature update, I can’t imagine they would skip sonething with an update, because it’s really a great feature, but you never know.
- I’ve tried holding the button really long, I’ve tried restarting, I’ve tried re-installing the update.
- The last thing I did nod try is to downgrade. Is it possible tot do that, are the old files online?
Thanks so far.
Grtz .
Hi, I’d be careful regarding the downgrade until fully investigating and then for best practice contact elektron before doing so just to make sure there is not some complication. I can’t see why there would be a problem but it’s good to know for sure.
In test mode, did you hold down the 3 4 and 5 all together? Perhaps A4 mkII doesn’t have the same behavior as my elektron devices, where holding down the 3 together produces the white light. Perhaps 6 has a lighting function on yours as well?
In any event, the documentation should be on the product page below the operating system download under the heading of “release notes”:
https://www.elektron.se/support-downloads/analog-four-mkii#resources
If the behavior is universal, then one would imagine it’s either a hardware defect or it’s deliberate and I’m not sure which direction to cast my vote. Test mode keys test should be able to light all lights. Elektron seems like they would have to have a good reason to change the behavior and I’m not seeing a reason, but I’m not omniscient and so can’t predict what they would do.
Can you google a picture of the A4 mk II and circle where the light is so I can see what you’re talking about specifically? I haven’t owned this device so I’m not familiar with the microtiming indicator.
Hello shigginpit,
To be clear I just bought the AF MKII recently. When I used it for the first hour, the function I’m looking for was working. But aftre I updated it didn’t work anymore. The rest works fine.
I attach three pictures:
- the trig button where the micro timing is activated
- my index finger is pointing towards the button that should light up when I’m holding trig button 13 down.
- when I press this button you see the value, when the value is zero (= on time) is does not light up, when microtiming in the right direction is activated, the button should light up.
Also I checked the lights in test mode and all colours are working also the white light when I press all three buttons.
Grtz
As they’ve removed the release notes for the prior OS updates from their website (I just checked) and I have no definite answer for the change in behavior, and being that it is global across projects and that the hardware works correctly as confirmed by the keys test, at this point I can only recommend that it’s best to contact elektron support and ask them directly. Since nobody else who owns the device is willing to test it out or has any input, then that seems to be the shortest line to an answer.
If the behavior deviates from expected and they can validate it with the machines they keep for tech support purposes, then I’m certain it will be added to a bug fix list which will eventually yield some results, and they can advise you about how to downgrade your firmware given your specific setup.
If they’ve intentionally changed the behavior, they should be able to clarify that for you so that you at least have a chance to decide if you want to stick with this or if you’d like to downgrade to the previous firmware still.
Thanks for including the photos and good luck.
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Thanks shigginpit, indeed I also contacted support from Elektron tonight, after you advised. I’m waiting for the answer and I’ll keep you posted when they give me more details on this one.
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Thanks. Please let me know the result as I’ll like to have a proper answer if it comes up again for someone else. Cheers.
Interesting! I can’t say I’ve ever noticed this before, but my A4 on 1.52 also does not light up the arrows when holding a note with microtiming applied.
Yes, I’ll let you know. Thanks.
Yes, The other parameter trig adjustments do light up. For example TRIG MUT, ACCENT and SLIDE.
I can’t remember that my A4 ever had this feature? Didn’t the rytm get this in a more recent update? Well, recent as in last years update. I still have a small hope elektron will update the A4 to be par with a lot of the same features as the rytm got last year.
Hello Gobseck,
I’m pretty sure I saw it lighting up before the update. But now i’m hesitating since you stated this. :
Are you also on 1.52?
As I said I bought the machine recently and I update after one day checking everything out.
I’ll check on my A4 today and report back.
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@E_minus Confirmed - I’m on 1.52 and have a black Mkii - the arrows do not light up when micro timing is applied.
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Poh, i’m confused. Sorry, guys if I was wrong… ;\
I’ll still await the answer from Elektron, but they will very probably confirm this.
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I’m on the latest firmware. I don’t insist that micro timing didn’t light up with earlier firmware, I just don’t remember:) i’ve had mine for a few years, so i’ve been through some updates.