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So far my experience with Move has been overwhelmingly positive. And it occurred to me last night after going back to Note on my iPad (which I never really clicked with) that using Note and Move is a pretty decent litmus test for how one feels about working with hardware vs software UIs.
Prior to Move, I had dabbled with Note a bit, but just like every other iPad app I’ve tried, I never really got on making music with it. With Move on the other hand, I felt an immediate connection and I haven’t been able to stop playing with it and I’m finding myself just cranking out idea after idea.
Given all the similarities between Note and Move in terms of architecture, functionality, sounds, etc. I can only attribute this to the way I personally respond to a dedicated piece of 3d hardware vs poking around on a 2d screen or mousing around a monitor.
Of course, I wish I got on with software the same way I do hardware, because it’s so much cheaper and portable. Convenience is alluring!
But using Move has been a reminder that I am someone who needs hardware to really do my thing.
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Oh wow I see it. The insert is shared by all the pads.
I did NOT know that!!
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That is disappointing, sure its the same product in hardware form but it be a nice controller for it regardless
Ableton never tires of mentioning that the Move is more a machine for finding new ideas and starting songs. For exactly this reason, I don’t understand why they offer two master effects but only one send effect.
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I get the same feeling, I’m much happier/more productive if I have hardware and a more tactile/physical interaction.
With that Note:Move relationship, it’s got me thinking about how some other apps could be amazing if they transferred to hardware.
Koala is the one that springs to mind for me.
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SP is pretty much that though, but the sequencer suuckkkss.
Interesting, does make me less keen at the moment. I understand its not 100% samplers like a mpc
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One of the reasons I like the Move so much is because it is the closest I’ve ever seen hardware get to Koala. Instant sampling to pads, and chromatic playing of those samples for one.
I’m still not really a fan of Note, but as it integrates so well with the Move I’m starting to explore more:
Earlier I mentioned that adding samples to a drum rack in Note and then syncing to the Move is very slick. I’ve been thinking more about this and I realize that the iPad can also sample from a digital USB audio source, for perfect samples, instead of just over an analog wire. You can also easily pinch to trim samples.
I imagine this goes back and forth, so you could sample into the Move and trim those samples in Note, on a comfy screen.
It’s a little like how you can use the Push with Live, and switch between pads and knobs, or keyboard and mouse, depending on which suits the job best.
I’d love to see Ableton develop this angle more in the future. Maybe being able to edit or reassign macros in Note, or drag-and-drop to add samples from other apps.
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I think both products are very opinionated when it comes to UI/UX, so I’m not sure if that works as a generic software/hardware litmus test. I don’t have problems with other software music apps, but Note gives me the ick. Somehow I always felt like it doesn’t really work for electronic music that’s programmed and is more useful for pop/hip hop artists.
I have an iPad but haven’t really used in recent years for music making. Can you describe the workflow a bit more?
Where do you store your samples? Just in the files app or is there some kind of librarian app that makes it easier? Can you store them on an external drive and connect via USB-C then drag them over from there?
How can you drag samples into the drum rack? Do you do this from within note or can you somehow drag them in from another app?
Also, I thought you could only sync sets into the cloud? Is there a way to only transfer drum racks from Note to Move?
Thanks!
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He is also a pure hip hop sample head and I just don’t see how the move 1.0 is the right tool for someone with very specific needs like his. Some of his points are valid, but some of his complaints are strengths for me. I find the way to get samples into the move as amazing. I never have to deal with a stupid cable and it’s insanely fast. The way he described the process makes it seem way more complicated than it’s. Why would I want a hard drive attached to a portable groovebox?
I also don’t think of the move as a pure sampler in the sense of a MPC/Sp404. That doesn’t mean it can’t be much better. But if I was just making hip hops beats, I’d buy an MPC. To me in its current state, the move is a groovebox with a lot of various functions, but sampling seems to be very much centered around the 16 pitch feature and 1 shots. Less of sample chopping etc.
So though his points weren’t all wrong, his tone was odd. This wasn’t marketed as some hip hop chopping sample beast. It was marketed as a groovebox with a sample function. Seems more that it’s just not the tool for him. So to turn it around on him by saying why do companies keep making things with limitations - my response would be why do consumers expect every device to do everything they want? Pick the device that has the right tools for you.
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I’ve ran into this as well, and wonder what the issue may be. I had it plugged in overnight to only find a drained battery the next morning. Hope this is a solveable/avoidable issue because I love this thing otherwise…
This is a good one!
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Had it once when connecting to my laptop via a port on the docking station. But only did that once, and not seen it since. That docking station has caused similar messages around ”shutting down too power hungry periphirals” in macos previously, so I’m blaming the dock on that one
Yeah I’m more into the camp of hip hop sample head, but I also dabble in dnb. But I do feel he went kind of harsh. Like I said I don’t think the Move should be seen as a pure sampler compared to a MPC, SP where it can this and more. His statements about limitations does ring true, but for me the Move is only on 1.0 so I can easily see it improving but to the extent where I would say it beat MPC or SP for sampling. But it will be better.
For me I want something fun to make beats, use as a decent midi controller for Ableton and well also having a decent sequenceer and sounds.
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I have seen it when charging the move from an Apple 61W laptop power supply with the Apple usb-C cable (and have not been able to make that power supply work). I found it really strange and don’t have the issue when running power from my 65W anker power supply.
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Works like a charm
That’s a pretty hasty and ignorant take. I mean, this thing has been out for all of what, like 10 days and he’s already got his ‘FINAL thoughts’ on it? 
He’s obviously steeped in the MPC way of doing things and seems to have only come to the conclusion that Move is not an MPC. No mention at all about Move’s synths, capture (perhaps Move’s most important feature), fast set switching, integration with Live, what features might appeal to people that aren’t him, etc.
I’m not saying Move is perfect or beyond reproach, but when you spend the bulk of a video saying things like ‘I don’t understand’, ‘I don’t know’, and ‘I don’t get it’, that’s probably a sign that you need to spend more time reflecting before publishing your thoughts.
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