The Deluge OLED screen is kinda of the size or this leaked prototype, maybe smaller, but a way higher DPI than Digitakt or MC 707. And it looked awesome. That would’ve easily rendered a waveform.
PS: I just want them to launch the damn thing already. good or bad. This is becoming exhausting. It’s been fun at the beginning, but I’m sure we all have work to do 
Well, if it’s Push3 but just less, I’m probably not into it.
If it’s an evolved idea of the Ableton ethos in a box, not just an extension of the daw in a stand-alone version, then that’s something. I mean like Note is to some extent - it translates to Ableton, but it’s also its own thing. Whereas Push3 felt like a hardware interface version of Ableton, and as such, probably not a great idea for a stand alone-device.
Preparing for Ableton’s Maschine Mikro / MPC Studio, just a smaller Live controller for 300 EUR/USD (hope I’m wrong)
That is true. I get along with the Octatrack as well but the Push Screen with Simpler seems to be another ballpark. Also Maschine plus is nice in that regard.
Why are you assuming that you will not be able to setup chains in the same way as in Ableton Live/Push Standalone. Morph and mix between as many sounds as you like. Much more flexible than with Elektron imo
at the end its just a bag to transport your favourite refrigerator. No buttons except golden dolce gabba opportunities.
This is a really good point. People already don’t like the Push because it doesn’t do literally everything Live does, only with an utterly different UI. Anything smaller would be even worse.
I still think that the leaked pic is a fake, or at least a real prototype from a while ago. But whatever the Move is, I bet it has a severely limited aka focussed feature set compared to the Push or Live.
There’s a tendency to put the Elektron sequencer on a pedestal (it is Elektronauts, and it is great, btw), like it can’t be beat.
But, if you have a look at the sequencing tools that are now in Live 12.1, I’d say they go way beyond the Elektron seq, especially the Generative and Transformative tools; it’s more in Hapax/Oxi territory… if a portion of this came to Move it would make it a powerful piece of kit… I wonder if it’ll have midi out??
Also, what are we speculating with storage for Move? I’d love an SD card slot…
for ease of programming manually, absolutely
completely different approach, for this software or external sequencers shine more, but manually sequencing piano roll or software step sequencers if way harder/tedious, and even with external sequencers, mapping the ccs is pita compared to how p-locks work.
I’ve never been a fan of Ableton. And looking at the specs of Move, it looks like such a dull, pointless product. A halfway house to nowhere. What a total waste of natural resources.
Why can’t they make something genuinely interesting and worthwhile that builds on their best idea of the last 20 years; buying Cycling '74… like a Max4Live hardware playground featuring all the best Max plugs from Fors, Max4Cats, Novel, etc?
ngl, I couldn’t agree more. tho I’m aware it’s still all speculation at this point.
I’m leaning towards this leak being a b/s:
if it’s not totally made up, then at least it’s a a very old prototype, clearly re-using P2/3 components (e.g. it’s hard to believe it will use those same, long encoders), so final unit looks different
lots of the controls here seem redundant - why the D-Pad and the bigger encoder on the right, if there’s P3 directional encoder? AFAIK it’s not meant as live performance device, so saving external surface space and internal electric board would surely make more sense?
why is Ableton teasing the icons in video, if screen isn’t important element of the controller?
the 4 tracks limitation is a weird choice, even considering Drum Racks - doesn’t Note allow more? The positioning on Ableton’s website seems to imply that Move is situated between - e.g. in terms of power - Push and Note, no?
the alleged 3h battery is weird too - if it’s based on P3SA’s i3 then why the limitation? if it’s based on some mobile ARM, with such a tiny screen and big body, then why just 3h?
where’s the speaker grill?
Seems to me it’s more likely than not that this is a holding page using the prototype text/image that was previously circulated.
Not saying that the final version is going to be radically different and might even be identical, but I’m personally not inclined to start forming strong views based on this.
Oh, but we were forming strong views here before the leak :)))))
Why even have “holding page”? Last Push isn’t being sold by 3rd party resellers, so I suspect Move won’t be either. Unless this is about to change with release of Move?
If it has a Hapax-like form factor, but with Ableton (and Push 3 SA) integration and with the new midi tools, I’m definitely buying it and possibly replacing my Hapax with it if it is also capable of sending midi to external gear directly.
This is also true. I guess I’m just going to keep on believing that this is gonna be the OP-1 killer I’m after unless and until proved otherwise. And when I said OP-1 killer four tracks wasn’t the first thing I had in mind.
what are you talking about? it’s on sweetwater and other resellers like this one in AU
https://www.sweetwater.com/ableton-push/series
and also amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Ableton-88947-Push-3-Standalone/dp/B0CPKWV3NH
Also, why those 8 encoders on this supposedly standalone device when there is no screen big enought to show which parameters they are controlling?
Touch encoder -> read value on screen while adjusting.