Ableton Move [Archived]

Also you guys do realize, that the photo looking like Maschine Jam, is an April Fools image?

https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=242684
April 01, 2021 :slight_smile:

@crevice said ā€œposted on April Foolsā€ so I guess so?

Can’t seem to find anything on fccid.io about Ableton. Damn! These germans are so secretive :slight_smile:

well I prefer if they are two separate things, not because of any particular annoyance towards one of the two companies but because in this way we would have two new pieces of technology at our disposal — damn thirst for new devices!! :weary: :sweat_smile:

I agree - I keep a close eye on my local Facebook marketplace in a city of 9 million and there’s one Push 3 for sale, which has been there for months vs dozens of Push 2s. So either they sold loads and everyone loves them or they’ve sold very few.

Hopefully this device is a reimagining of the Push because, personally, I think the 3 was very misjudged, mainly because keeping the same form factor as the 2 was a mistake. Why does a midi controller for my laptop need to be twice the size and weight of the thing doing all the actual work? It was so horrendous to use with a laptop, it’s so big that it’s a huge barrier. The screen is far too small and really unergonomically positioned. The sequencing approach and workflow is very dated. And far too expensive as well.

I hope it’s not a mixer/fader focused device - there’s already many things on the market that do exactly this perfectly well and I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t just buy one from eg Akai. Who, incidentally, binned off their version of that, which I doubt they’d have done if it was selling well.

I really do hope it’s a circuit sized push - keep (mostly) the same functionality, still pads (smaller and nowhere near as many) for playing and sequencing and knobs. Agnostic on a screen - simply no point if it’s just the push screen again, why wouldn’t I just look up at my laptop screen? Would need to be something that’s actually worth using or I’d rather save the space.

In fact, if it was literally a circuit clone that sequenced directly into Ableton rather than on the device but was the same in every other way, I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

If wishes were horses… :horse:

Edit: or, as suggested below, a super portable M8-sized standalone device that can transfer projects to Live proper would be awesome.

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Excited to see what comes.

ā€œMoveā€ for faders feels a bit off a misnomer to me. If anything, that should be ā€œpushā€!

Doubt it’ll be as interesting as this but I could see something that sat between Push/Note and competed with the Tracker mini/M8 sort of devices. I like Note but touchscreens are a problem.

If it wasn’t for having its own tab on the website, I’d have said this still prob just end up being some live party event to promote Push/12.1/Note more but seems like it’ll at least be something

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To me ā€œmoveā€ sounds like a gyroscope based controller device.

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Yes, that’s what I’m afraid of :frowning:

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Does the poster or the t-shirt mean anything to anyone?
I don’t think they’re random.
Perhaps there’s some clue there?

I suggested a good few years ago on an Ableton questionnaire what I would like to see.

Ableton twist. 64 encoders for deeper VST control to sit alongside push.

Think this is similar but move implies faders, in my head at least (like Console 1), but a push, move and twist trio would be great. Something similar to the SSL controllers but with deeper integration in Live.

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Baffled that people are interpreting ā€œmoveā€ to refer to faders lol. Cmon ppl.

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It’s just a Judas Priest t-shirt. The clue is Oct 8th.

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???

Hopefully, it’s like Push 3SA Lite version limited to 8 channels, Granulator / Simpler / Analog / Operator or Clip per channel, some basic effects per channel, send and master effects.

Like a Digitakt but more powerful and ā€œclip orientedā€ device with polyphony, replaceable ssd drive, adat out, all other benefits.

Would be awesome.

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I find the thoughts here regarding the verbs used for the product names very interesting.

A Push 3 but with focus on controls (Move) instead of the button grid. The current layout kinda forces the clip based workflow. But what if one prefers to use a hardware sequencer and maybe don’t use stems at all? The button matrix would be a waste of space.

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Ableton Shamen

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Finally!)

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Move money from your bank account to theirs

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This logic doesn’t make sense to me.

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