Recently got a Dirtywave M8, and it will be really hard for Ableton Move to beat it.
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Iām with most everyone else in hoping that itās a killer groovebox, but Iām not completely convinced this sort of thing is in Abletonās wheelhouse. Live, and DAWs generally, are about giving the user all the power and flexibility theyāll ever need. But the good grooveboxes have a focused set of features running on limited hardware, all of which is designed around a particular composition workflow. Elektron is at the top of this game imo, but I havenāt seen anything like this come out of Ableton, even with Push (not saying itās impossible). Note is a nice tool, but truly just a sketch pad.
The thing with Push is that itās pretty much a blank canvas, how I find it works best is to customise it into your own idea of a good groove box using that flexibility and then work within the limitations/constraints youāve chosen for yourself (over and above the constraints and limitations that obviously follow from the Push hardware). But not everyone will be into this, where currently Iām going down a rabbit hole on how to implement MPC style event level mutes consolidated onto a single drum rack for an entire project, and Iām pretty close to a solution.
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I think youāre underselling Note a bit hereā¦ It has 8 tracks, 8 clips per track, automation, plenty of usable presets, you can record your own samples etcā¦
Itās not a fully fledged portable hardware groovebox by any stretch but you definitely can use it to lay down complete song ideas and the ux is pretty great
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You could be right, Iāve had pretty limited experience with it.
I really like my Push 2. But sound design on it is a pain, for me. Iād much rather just look at the instrument GUI on my monitor. I can see the layout, graphics, and controls all at once, and see what everything is doing at a glance.
I hope they donāt try and take sound design too deep on the Move. This is assuming itās some kind of portable groove box, of course. I could imagine just having a few macros to control instruments. Some would probably be presets made by Ableton. Would be cool to make your own in Live too, save them as presets, and port them to the Move as desired.
In other words, I just hope they keep it a simple portable sketchpad. I would definitely buy that to use for sketching songs on the couch, while traveling, etc. Then expand on those sketches when back at my desk with Push 2 and computer.
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Bruh they really keep it tight under a sealā¦ kept googlingā¦ NOTHING!
Boy, this & other forums are going to melt down if itās NOT a groovebox of some sort 
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Hence, a good reason not to do a teaser campaign! Some disappointment is inevitable. We all build up our ideal device in our imaginations.
If they just drop it out of the blue, you either want it, or not. But hard to be disappointed or āmadā at them.
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This (the ācould it be a groovebox from Abletonā one) is quite an interesting discussion even if it isnāt one! Especially paired with the recent Ricky T comments about why owning hardware can be a benefit over software (tldr: limitations and speed.)
DAWs are unique in that you can of course do absolutey anything. In my case, my workflow did lead me to a kitchen sink approach ājust becauseā at one point. Itās all good for learning but that taught me that thereās a reason folks talk about limitations. While technically you can create a groovebox in Live, it doesnāt look or behave like one so you react differently. On the flipside, Circuit Tracks has some extremem limitations, but many people love it. I imagine to Rickyās point this is about having useful constraints on the process at the right time.
All hardware has decisions from the manufacturer baked in by default. In my mind, Note is the perfect example of a useful constraint. All you can do is load a subset of synths and samples from the Core Library. But probably the biggest aspect of it is thereās no setup or routing to do. That makes you make choices and keeps things moving. In that way Note feels like a Circuit Tracks app to me.
I canāt think of a DAW maker who has actively pulled away from the āeverything is possibleā kitchen sink approach until Note. But itās not completely unreasonable if you think about it. Tally up all the āI wish there were a Circuit Proā comments with all the āPush 3 aināt worth it, get a used Push 2ā stuff, as well as the ongoing popularity of devices like the Digitakt and Polyend Tracker, it wouldnāt be unreasonable to explore that as a company looking to offer options for using their system.
Time will tell!
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Iām with you on this, as much as itās an excellent device for more hands-on control of my favourite DAW, the Push 2 still required trackpad and keyboard control of the session, particularly for manipulating warp markers which is a huge part of my workflow, as well as a huge part of what makes Live such a special DAW.
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Wow.
Still no leaks.
Theyāve got a good handle on their supply chain and testers. 
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Was thinking the same which probably means odds are shortening on this being something naff and not new hardware!
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Orā¦ theyāre showing renders & selling the concept. Preorder NOW and get it in the summer 2025
Edit: although this would be dumb, and not wroth a teasing campaign.
Reason studiosā reason compact and figure on iOS are examples that predate note by a few years which fit your description of basic, to the point, write a cool idea quickly and easily made by a DAW. Reason compact projects load up in reason standalone so you can finish them off in the DAW. Too early? Too niche? 
Idk, I still love those apps.
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Tbh, they havenāt teased shit. They just said āWe have a new thing called Move and the reveal is October 8thā
If anyone feels disappointed or let down next week itās all on themselves. 
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Stem Separation is a funny thing.
How does one license those separations if they release commercial music?
Itās still piracy or illegal use of commercial music if you release it commercially.
Plus it all sounds like low fi bit crushed garbage when the extraction is done.
Iām just not sold on it since it doesnāt sound good and doesnāt really help the artists whose music is being separated.
I dunno. I get it at the same time i donāt get it.
Donāt get me wrong, i use Samples like madā¦but i purposely use royalty free and/or licensed sound sources so i donāt have to think about the legality of all itāand copyright strike violations on the Tubes and IG.
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Whoever faked that trademark filing is watching this thread and absolutely cackling to themselves.
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Devious. Haha.
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