Methinks mods are gonna have a field day with this 
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Push is not affordable to many. A more affordable Move could draw in a whole new mind share of users and increase Abletonās market share. Letās face it, as sleek as Push 3 is, it isnāt exactly portable nor standalone. Itās cumbersome and still feels Iām tethered to a desk. Itās great as an instrument like Iām playing a piano, but not exactly an instrument where I can create something as simply as Iād like wherever, whenever. Saying all that, Iām not even sure if Move actually is a product that fits this portable description, but Ableton would be lagging behind so many of its competitors if they donāt.
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Come on now.:
We gotta get something good now that i see thisš¤Ŗ
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I agree with your assessment of the Push 3 for sure. Iāve got the controller version that always sits on my desk but I knew thatās where it would stay before I bought it. However, Iām not sure I agree entirely with this statement,
I donāt really see Roland, Maschine or Akai as 1-to-1 competitors to Ableton. I often read about people who own those devices moving their songs on to Ableton Live at some point. Heck, I even owned most of those before but was tired of all the limitations and eventually transitioned to Ableton as my main tool. I think if Move is a device that competes with the 404/MPC/Circuits of the world that will be great but Iām not sure how necessary it is for Ableton to enter that field. But thatās just my opinion 
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They need to enter that field so we can have a portable Ableton ready workflow in our backpacks that arenāt laptops 
Plus i want Simpler in a portable instrument.
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I canāt disagree with that.
Push3 is portable in the ālive setā sense, not in the āsketchpad/making music on the goā sense.
I doubt you will pack a push for a train ride or on the plain. Itās simply to cumbersome for that.
A more portable solution would have 2 goals:
A mobile idea station for working musicians before they move those to the ableton, and an entry point for people that have music as a hobby where push doesnāt fit.
Additionally itās also for those that are using a fraction of lives capability since they also perform with ārealā instruments and only need a small companion for clips launching and some efx/synths/drums. A smaller one that doesnāt demand a center spot on my setup could work well here.
As to "whatās the benefit for ableton:
Reaching wider audiences.
Push 3 is out of reach for many,
or not the thing they need.
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I donāt expect them to make a fully functional port of the push3 into a smaller device.
My assumption: smaller screen, still 8 encoders,
8 by 4 pads (smaller ones), many buttons moved to a submenu, about a third of the footprint (wishful thinking). 8 tracks limit and a selection of ableton devices that where ported to an ARM base. 3+ battery power. Projects exportable to ableton.
Update for Ableton to manage ex/import of parts of a project (to make it easy to manage what parts can be moved and what canāt cause itās either to many tracks or using some aspects the device canāt support. No idea how itās currently handled with cats on push3.
I agree 100% with both of these statements. The Push feels awkward as a groovebox/sketchpad due to the workflow not being designed for spontaneous noodling at all. You have to prepare things in Live before they make any sense on the Push and itās clear that Ableton thinks thatās the intended workflow: prepare projects, templates, sound presets etc etc and then perform or maybe comp using the Push in standalone.
If Move takes steps towards the groovebox territory, they could win over a lot more people (Iām guessing the majority of us here) who arenāt tethered to the studio or perform live on stage.
And this is the unfair advantage Ableton has that could make then dominate the groovebox market if they managed to build an actually useful and fun groovebox: they own the DAW where most of the competitorsā groovebox projects end up at some point.
My Syntakt, MPC and Polyend projects, they all end up in Ableton at the final mixing stage. I own a Push 3 Standalone but I never use it because itās no fun and itās too big for me to even feel comfortable moving it around the house. I worry about accidentally bumping it into a wall. Plus the buttons give me aching fingers. I donāt know what they were thinking honestly, putting a battery in this thing. Who cares about battery when itās not portable to begin with? 
So yeah I think thereās a huge opportunity for Ableton here if Move is indeed a groovebox. But they really have to rethink some of their workflow paradigms for it to become a truly fun groovebox like the Syntakt, Digitakt 2, etc.
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Due to the push architecture, perhaps the battery main goal is to make up for sudden power outages that could corrupt the current active project and the background os system?
Two hours arenāt so much the definition of portable, and yes, I confirm too that it isnāt supposed to be āmove(d)ā that much once switched on 
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About the idea of Move as a smaller Ableton groove box, would be cool yes, but it will represent another project to maintain with software development too. Would be Ableton capable, from a resources point of view, to handle it too on top of the daw and push supported iterations?
My bet is more on a 3rd party collaboration as someone stated previously, ala teenage engineering with microtonic, licensing the maintenance out of their workload.
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You could take this groovebox thought from those here 2 ways. On the one hand, why risk making a cheaper version of Push because they want you to buy a Push. They should keep the new thing very separate to make sure there can be no comparison.
But on the other, plenty of people have strongly suggested that Push 3 is too expensive and that folks who just want the playable pads and donāt care about MPE to get a Push 2 or something else. So this may be Abletonās attempt to channel those purchases back to themselves. And others have commented just how fun Note is for an extremely low price.
Push and Note hints at the idea of not just a DAW but instead having many entry points to using Ableton. Putting something halfway between Note and Push would make a lot of sense for quite a lot of people, so making something at the price of Push controller (but fully portable) is not guaranteed but also I could see why theyād do that.
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Yes, they would. Theyāve over 500 employees and I was always wondering what all of them are doing on a daily basis? [mod edit: letās stay on topic please]
But on a serious note - I hope Move brings the price of Push down. If Move is a portable version of Push/Note, then Push 3 Standalone wonāt make much sense anymore, so they could gut Push 3 controller from all the hardware ready to connect the NUC, make it flatter / lighter and sell it for half the price or less. Iād gladly get one (againā¦) because I really loved the MPE pads. As a controller for Live - itās great. As a standalone groovebox / Live-in-a-box itās falling short at least compared to my expectations.
In the end it will be a VR āAbletonā Groovebox/Game inspired by Synth Riders.
Would not mind that at all to be honest.
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This makes so much sense, I hope it wonāt get too expensive because I would love to get a portable Ableton controller! Christmas is coming soā¦
I hope itās a software for controlling Live with Playstation Move - I still have a pair somewhere in the basement 
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The new PSVR2 sense controllers are miles better, but unfortunately they are not sold separately 
The bigger a software gets, the harder it is to keep it alive/develop for it.
- Marketing. A lot of courses, people that go to trade shows, visuals, support, ā¦
Yeah that is annoying and thereās no real workaround (there is: convert slices to drum rack, take individual simpler device and either put it on a new track or use a midi track to trigger it). Itās really annoying that there isnāt even a chromatic mode on Pushā¦
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Move = Ableton groovebox, battery powered with a built in microphone.
Please.
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